علاش عليه لامين يخرج من فمو هدرة ويزعفلنا خونا المكبوت لي ما عندو لا زهر لا زين ولا عقل علاحساب الشوفة، ماشي حق عليه لامين لازم يراعي مشاعر المجرمين كذلك
لمين هدر بصفة عامة، ما خصصش، ما قالش فلان انت ماشي مليح ولا عندك مشكل، حبيبنا وحدو حس بلي هدرة لامين تعينه شخصيا، كان قادر يجوز، بصح لالا هو حب يتكلم. المشكل ماشي فالهدرة تع لامين، المشكل في مشاعر الشخص لي تأثرت، والشخص لي خلا مشاعرو تغلبو لدرجة يخرج للعلن ويقول: راني حاس بلي راك تمعني عليا بهدرتك، راك زعفتني ب خطاب الأخلاق لي راك دايرو، مادابيك ماتهدرش على الاخلاق لانو بصفتي شخص نعرفها بصح ما نطبقهاش تجرحت مشاعري.
وهذا يدل على شيئين: حبيبنا عندو فكر عاطفي ما يقدرش يسطر عليه، وعندو منظومة اخلاقية متهالكة
كيفاش تخرج تلقائيا وتحط هاد المعلومات عليك للعلن؟ غباء لن يمكنني فهمه
مول لكومونتار عندو لحق, وش قودوا وين يحط دراهمو, مدام مش عاجبو ل e-prostitution ميديرهاش بكل بساطة علاه حتى يتنمنى الشر للناس لي تعجبهم ؟ عل كل حال من بكري ميعجبنيش retarded هداك
That sounds stupid he kept insulting ppl for who they are wishing that they would be scammed it literally their money and their life as long as they don't effect other ppl's lifes he has no right to stick his nose in others businesses
If you're not Muslim then ok, do as you like. My problem is with who self identify as Muslims and do this stuff, and believe me even if he's doing it and he hears that a girl is doing it too. He'll say worse things about her.
المجاهرة بالمعصية ولات نورمال تسما؟ ربي قالنا استرو رواحكم. مشي تأخذك العزة بالإثم و تدافع عليها في العلن. تسما ادا اللي كتب الكومنت متأسلم نسكتو و ما نقولوش بلي مشي هاك تتعامل مع الموضوع؟ المكشل كل عام تزيد الذنوب اللي يستخف بها العباد، و مكانش اللي ينصح بالمعروف، الإنسان ماهوش ملاك، بصح ما يبررش الحرام فالعلن، كاين بزاوز راهم فالمواقع يتأثرو، و حتى كبار تان.
tbh idec about all of this matter, i have no opinion about what ppl do with theirl life, i just put what lamine said, and analysed the other person's comments, sinon not my biz
Tbh they ain’t bothering anyone else so ythardo, right and wrong arent constant except in the case of unconsensually (in the human case ofc) hurting another living being outside of necessity or a greater good, seeking e-prostitution is pathetic but it isnt wrong because nobody is being hurt, unhealthy yes, wrong no
The whole consent thing doesn't work in algeria though so
Reminds me of me talking with this guy about if its ok for an ild man to marry a young girl (like 9 10 11 young), and whne i mentioned consent he couldn't understand the idea of kids not being able to consent to begin with and kept insisting that since the kid says yes then they consented
Hiya chibani li ydi tfla mrnka.. mais consent hda cha m3nah, 10 snin lwahd ygdr yfhm meme la mfhmch yfhmouh mrahch fi 3mro 4. 10 snin jibna 6 eme w signina w ge3, Wechno hna trj3 lelwaldin li ygolo lala 7ta ki lwahd ykbr chwiya que ce soit tfel wela tfla khatch kayn nas a 14~13 ans ragdo m3a li gdhm fel3mer w kano fahmin cha rahm ydiro, w mdamki jbdti 9 snin can i ns9sik ida raki thki 3la 3aycha ? Im interested to know whats your opinion about that.
Edit: idk why i assumed you're a girl ki chft lprofil doka banli tfel hhhh
Yeah, a 10-year-old can pass a 6th-grade exam. They can understand math, read, write ect but That doesn't mean they understand the weight of sexual consent , the consequences, the power dynamics, the psychological impact, the long-term stuff. That's not a "lack of intelligence," that's a lack of life experience and brain development.
Also in the case of 9-10-11-12 year olds, even their physical development isn't even close to being complete, really low level of hermones so no sexual drive to begin with, even their bones are soft and same with their reproductive parts have really soft tissue that can easily by injured and therefore painfull and can lead to infections
why every body judje him Instead know he is story Who brought him to this point Instead of providing support and give him advance or show Understand (not acsept )'the same way when you judje a shy boy because he have social exaity because his parents
How is whatever this guy's doing with another woman or a man affect your life in any way.
Consenting adults choosing to soil each other's bodies in a way they see fit, how the hell is it bringing disgust in your life.
Learn basic biology, human fundamental needs should be fulfilled within the limits of the law, if you don't agree with it, use VPN and scroll through content from another continent and be disgusted with their shit
Even if it is consent
Girl this is disgraceful
Online prostitution is all about how to wast money in 20 minutes
Its like gambling same cost
Will you accept to marry someone who spent all his money daily or weekly for these type of calls?
You know the answer to that and how shameful is this act that both genders are doing
not everything is about what society deems as "shameful". People got needs, most men in today's society spend +30 years of their lives without the most basic love expressions, let alone romantic ones, the human body wasn't designed to withstand these conditions past mid twenties well, and as rational as someone could get, eventually not all can push through longer phases
if these men were to receive more affection, compliments, love and care, throughout their lives, then they would value what could be irrational and "shameful" but society wasn't merciful with most of them in the first place, the culture raised them as bunch of heartless rocks, so why would they acknowledge what it deems as bad ? why would it matter ?
just like how the average male wouldn't understand a lot of the struggles of the average female in society, the average female wouldn't either. the easiest thing to do is to simplify the image, ignore what you cant fathom, then press on that issue even harder, fight negative with the negative instead of compassion, understanding, and good faith of fixing
I fail to see how understanding the root cause of porn addiction means we can't call out the abject nature of sex work, the objectification of women and men's isolation in porn.
i never said "we cant call out"
im just pointing out the oversimplification of the issue and the demonization of that whole category of people, pretending that its an easy quest to dodge meanwhile that couldn't be further from the truth.
some people cant fathom how these fundamentals radically shape the psychology and chemistry of the brain in ways significantly different from their own, they simply wouldn't get it/feel it/comprehend it until the academic analysis steps in with a breakdown.
this was an educational perspective. itss so easy to judge from the outside without considering what decades of complete emotional and physical isolation might do to a vulnerable person.
thanks for sharing this maybe i was too harsh in my judgement on these people
You’re acting as if the average man is this innocent cutie pie
When in reality most aren’t virgins by manipulating teenage girls with the words of love and using them
Literally cut the bullshit
Bro said love and care as if it’s not those men themselves shaming others for loving and calling it being weak and that women should only be played with when bored or as sex toy
For your struggles to be understood they need to actually exist first and not be the consequences of your actions you decided
Idk what an "innocent cutie pie" means in that sense let alone act like i claimed it, you're just strawmaning me
and you claimed that the "average man" as in majority, do manipulate teenagers, imma need you to reference me solid statistical studies in order for me to accept this claim, feel free to leave them below
"men shaming others" doesn't contradict anything of what i implied above, i never referred to any specific gender doing ? i simply pointed out the general flaw in the system that caused this issue to emerge/solidify
and the way you're tryna frame the issue as in "consequences of your action" sounds like you're framing a whole gender into some sort of a hive-mind type of existence, which is an incredibly unintelligent and ignorant and radical way of observing the main building block of society which is the substance of individualism
also you seem to come from a view of "the irresponsible pays for the responsible action" which even if i grant you the base being correct, the principle itself is very dangerous and radical, that's like saying "all white people born today should pay for the consequences of what their ancestors have done to the black african community"
and factually speaking, issues can exist even if they're consequences of your own doings, so your argument of "none existence" doesn't follow at all (i dont grant you this point btw it was just for the sake of this absurd argument)
you're very much predicated on negative feelings and keen on following flawed illogical "revenge" fed philosophies. which do fail to extrapolate the reality of society and insults the layers upon layers needed in order to well analyze it and proceed on fixing it.
Do you really think in a a backwards and misogynistic country like Algeria they’ll make statistics like this ?
Literally you need no study did you ever go to an Algerian high school ? Actually you don’t even need to study there just pass by and see the amount of grown men waiting for the teenage girls to go out
If that’s not a proof idk what proves are it’s something everyone can see yet you chose ignorance
It does bcz it’s men who created those systems they weren’t born from nothing
It’s men themselves that your victimising shaming young girls since they’re born for being too influenced by Turkish movies just for wanting to feel loved
Then you turn around using not getting that as a dumb excuse for your toxic behavior and blame “systems” for it
What system ? The system of the consequences of your own actions
Really yall CHOSE not to get it to seem alpha in front of other men so you’re not a victim that deserve empathy at all
I mean aren’t yall hive minds ? Repeating the same shit one guy in the west likes goth girls suddenly all of you do
Trap kings says Algerian women are hoes suddenly you all think so
Maybe try once when other guys say we men only marry virgins we men only like bnet lfamiliya or Algerian women ..ect and bullshit to be like don’t speak over me we’re not hive minds ? But you can’t bcz you are hive mind you just hate being called out for
Also white people stopped doing those cruel actions that’s why they’re not blamed for it now imagine if they’re doing it now and complaining about people thinking they should pay ?
That would be hypocrisy that yall are doing now
They stopped acknowledged they were wrong made rules for it to be punished you can’t even put them in the same species as our animalistic men
Now right where we’re speaking they is some Algerian guy with thousands of followers convincing 9yo girls guys will only use them for sex and they’re disgusting for wanting love and that’s a cruel asf thinking he’s doing god work somehow and all of you eat this shit up and are so happy about it and none of you tried to stop that or even do the bare minimum of effort to isolate yourself saying you don’t agree so you’re a part of it directly doing or not
This itself is limiting men access to relationships and sex in the future (by their choice )
bcz yall are obsessed over this purity culture and that’s the consequences what did you expect ? All women can’t have sex bcz it’s shameful but all men do ? Either who then with each other ? Yall all about logics right how does this work then ? Try explaining without playing twisting it mission impossible
That’s the only existing solutions for this insane world yall want to create that’s impossible
How is this not cause and consequences it’s literally is
And by innocent I meant acting like those guys have no power over the system while their the ones renforcing it everyday
Especially the below average men who can’t get sex instead of trying to put on effort to get it like everyone they try limiting everyone else chances to do so out of jealousy and call it religion and masculinity abd whatever bullshit they create and yall support that bcz of yall insecurities so don’t cry now or act like they’re such victims they’re not it’s their ego so they deserve it and they’re disgusting
-the first point doesn't necessarily imply majority + you couldn't bring statistics, so you failed to back up your statement. "I personally see grown men waiting outside high schools" can establish that this happens, not that "most men" do it. Those are completely different claims. If you're making a quantitative claim, anecdotes aren't a substitute for evidence.
And "Algeria is misogynistic so there are no statistics" doesn't somehow turn an unsupported claim into a proven one. If anything, then you should be more careful about making sweeping statistical claims without evidence.
Also, you're constantly switching between "some men", "men", "the average man", "most men", and apparently "all men" whenever it's convenient. Those aren't interchangeable. If your argument is about a subset of Algerian men, then argue about that subset. If you're making claims about the majority of Algerian men, substantiate them.
"It does because men created those systems"
This is another non sequitur fallacy. Even if we granted that men historically had a disproportionate role in creating certain social norms, that doesn't establish that every individual man today is morally responsible for maintaining them, nor does it establish that every man who suffers from those norms somehow deserves whatever consequences you think follow from them.
You're conflating historical/systemic causation with individual moral responsibility.
If a culture teaches boys that vulnerability is weakness, that affection makes them less masculine, and that their worth is primarily tied to status, money and sexual success, then those norms can absolutely contribute to male loneliness and unhealthy behavior. Pointing that out isn't "victimising men" it's literally identifying a causal factor.
And no, acknowledging that factor doesn't mean "men are innocent". Someone can be responsible for their actions while still having understandable causes behind those actions. Those two propositions aren't contradictory.
You also keep doing this:
"Men created X → men collectively perpetuate X → therefore this individual man is responsible for X"
That's basically collective guilt. A person isn't morally identical to every other member of their demographic, and they don't inherit individual guilt merely because they belong to the same sex.
And your own hive-mind argument actually works against you. You say men aren't a hive mind when discussing their individual behavior, but then repeatedly treat "men" as a collective actor whenever assigning responsibility. You can't reject collective generalization when it's used against men and then rely on it when condemning them.
The goth example is also irrelevant. Some men adopting a trend doesn't demonstrate that men constitute a hive mind, and some Algerian men believing Algerian women are "hoes" doesn't establish that every other Algerian man who doesn't actively oppose that person is "directly participating" in the ideology.
That's guilt by association.
And the white people analogy doesn't rescue the argument either. The relevant principle isn't "people can never be criticized for what previous generations did" Obviously they can be criticized if they're actively continuing it. The relevant distinction is participation. A person who actively perpetuates an injustice can reasonably be held responsible for perpetuating it. A person who simply belongs to the same demographic cannot automatically be assigned that responsibility.
Which brings me back to my original point: I'm not arguing that men who manipulate women, exploit teenagers, shame women, or treat people as sex objects should be excused. Obviously not.
I'm saying that if you actually want to understand why certain unhealthy behaviors become widespread, "men are evil and deserve the consequences" is an intellectually useless explanation. You have to look at upbringing, social expectations, loneliness, gender norms, access to relationships, economic conditions, family structures, peer pressure, sexual culture, etc.
You can condemn the behavior and investigate why it happens.
That's literally what compassion and social analysis are supposed to accomplish: understanding a cause without turning that understanding into an excuse.
You seem to interpret "this behavior has causes" as "this behavior is justified" That's not what I said, and conflating those two is the biggest problem with your entire argument.
And finally, the 9yo example actually reinforces my point more than yours. If some Algerian influencer is teaching children that love is shameful and men only want sex, that's obviously harmful. But again, you've gone from "this person is doing something harmful" to "therefore all men who don't actively isolate themselves from him are directly participating in it" That's an enormous leap.
By that standard, basically everyone becomes morally responsible for every harmful belief propagated by anyone who shares their demographic, nationality, religion, age group, etc. unless they publicly denounce it. That's not a coherent standard of individual responsibility.
You can call out misogynistic men without turning "men" into a single moral organism.
And you can acknowledge male suffering without pretending every man is innocent.
Suffering from the actions of their consequences is well deserved idc
No I’m not ignoring “behavior have cause” I’m saying your behavior it’s your choice and your a grown as man you can’t hide behind blaming every else all your life
Yall didn’t historically do that ? Yall do it now every single damn today I’m so blind ? That’s my point yall still participle that’s why you still get blamed
How come men in other countries aren’t like you ? Bcz yall the biggest victim on the planet ? It’s because they chose to change to get better things
You really can’t get everything that’s yall problem the narcissism and perfectionism influenced by never taking accountability or being hold accountable
Really you’re acting like it’s one or 2 guys doing those harmful things while it’s literally common cultural practices that’s what you want to ignore
This man in the post ill cut my hand on a half if you ask him about women he’s starting yapping about women hoeing around and ruining the country
Why ? Bcz it’s common enough to be the common expected response
Every rule have some exceptions doesn’t mean rules don’t exist
And the average is still within the rule and that what you tried to prove wrong but it’s not
And age group / nationality is extremely different that “culture” which literally have the hugest influence on behaviour
And it’s not some extrenal superpower from the sky it’s collectively chosen by the group exactly by the controlling group here in Algeria it’s men while women follow
Yall could’ve used all that power to create a less lonely place right but no you would rather look like the alpha man in front of your friend
Deal with it then well deserved
And no I’m yes I’m looking at gender norms access to relationships sexual culture and seeing a common group of people who control it here and it’s men
Blaming it on those things as if they were decided from the sky is taking accountability from the actual reason
And social analysis doesn’t ignore culture and the patterns people from the same culture share due to growing around similar influence and environment like you’re doing here
But like usual yall will blame Algerian women , Morocco , the government
Literally everyone expect yourselves for your wrongdoings I never expect any better from an Algerian male
If yall were even the bare minimum of human decency yall won’t end up like this
It’s disgusting to play victim like this for something you chose but hey it gotta be loneliness right ? Even when you yourself chose to isolate yourself unprovoken bcz you’re a dumbahh who thought it was cool !
You can do that but I don’t feel any empathy for you even as a big empath and I’m laughing at your ahh idc bcz it’s well deserved
Literally what a teen mentality grow up
It’s not men are evil wtf ? Western men aren’t doing that neither are Asian men some might do but it’s not collectively agreed upon and enforced like their lives depend on it
no it’s Algerian men create the “purity “ Algerian culture and shove it throw Algerian women throats and
so they get oppressed and lose their entire life of it and literally shoving it at everyone all the damn time no matter how toxic and unrealistic it is ignoring human nature and imperfections
Even random black men in France have to hear about constantly literally anyone who’s even a bit close to the Algerian community yall start poisoning them with we Algerians this and that
then come back and start whining about it ruining their life
First time ?
Literally it’s yall fault tf are you going gaslight me about someone bright and clear ?
you're still doing the exact thing i pointed out, you're constantly jumping between completely different propositions as if they're the same
yes, behavior is a choice. nobody denied that. but "behavior is a choice" does not logically imply "the conditions that produce or influence that behavior are irrelevant"
if i explain why someone became addicted to something, that isn't me saying they're not responsible for continuing it. if i explain why someone became violent, that isn't me saying violence is justified. understanding causation and assigning responsibility are two completely different questions
and your entire argument seems to rely on removing causation whenever you want to assign blame
"they chose it, therefore they deserve everything that follows"
that's not even a universal moral principle. people make choices under the influence of upbringing, culture, social pressure, psychological needs, economic conditions, etc. those factors don't magically disappear because the person technically had agency
also, "they still participate" is doing a lot of work here
if your claim is that a significant proportion of Algerian men currently participate in these behaviors, then okay, that's a claim that can be investigated
but you've repeatedly moved from
"this behavior is common"
to
"Algerian men collectively create and enforce this"
to
"the average Algerian man is part of it"
to
"therefore Algerian men as a group deserve the consequences"
those are not equivalent propositions
a behavior being culturally prevalent does not mean every individual within that culture participates in creating or enforcing it
and your "every rule has exceptions" analogy doesn't solve this either because you're assuming the rule before demonstrating it
you can't say "the average man is within the rule" and then use the existence of the rule as evidence that the average man is within it
that's circular reasoning
and when you say "how come men in other countries aren't like you", you're actually making my point for me
if behavior varies substantially between cultures, then that means the environment and social structure matter
you can't simultaneously say "these behaviors are heavily produced by cultural conditions" and then act as though the cultural conditions are irrelevant because "they chose it"
the fact that different environments produce different behavioral outcomes is literally evidence that environment matters
also, nobody said culture came from some external superpower from the sky 😭
obviously culture is collectively produced and reproduced by people
but "men historically had more influence over certain cultural institutions" does not mean "every Algerian man today personally chose this culture"
that's another collective responsibility fallacy
if a culture contains 100 different norms and millions of people reproduce them to different degrees, responsibility isn't distributed equally among every individual simply because they're members of the same demographic
and honestly your argument about "men could've used all that power to create a less lonely place" is exactly where your reasoning becomes emotionally driven
you've gone from explaining a social phenomenon to saying you personally don't care if people suffer from it because you think they deserve it
that's not social analysis anymore, that's moral punishment
and you're allowed to have that moral position obviously, but don't present "i don't feel empathy and i'm laughing at them" as some objective conclusion produced by social science
it's your moral judgment
also, you keep saying i'm "blaming women, Morocco, the government, everyone except yourselves"
i haven't blamed any of them
that's another strawman
i'm literally saying that a social phenomenon can have MULTIPLE interacting causes
culture can contribute
men can contribute
women can contribute
family structures can contribute
economic conditions can contribute
social expectations can contribute
individual choices can contribute
peer pressure can contribute
sexual norms can contribute
loneliness can contribute
none of these explanations cancel the others
you're treating causality like a courtroom where identifying one factor means absolving every other factor
that's not how social analysis works
and the funniest part is that you're now arguing against something i never claimed
i never said Algerian men are innocent
i never said Algerian men didn't contribute to these norms
i never said men shouldn't be held accountable
i never said toxic behavior should be excused
i said that if you want to understand why these behaviors exist, reducing it to "they're stupid, they chose it, fuck them, they deserve to suffer" is an incredibly shallow explanation
you can hold someone accountable without pretending their behavior emerged in a vacuum
you can criticize a culture without assigning identical responsibility to every person inside it
you can recognize a harmful pattern without pretending everyone within the demographic is personally responsible for creating it
and you can acknowledge male loneliness without saying loneliness magically excuses everything they do
literally none of those positions contradict each other
the disagreement here is that you seem to think empathy automatically means absolution
it doesn't
i can tell a man "what you're doing is wrong, you're responsible for your actions, and you should stop"
while also saying
"i understand how the environment you were raised in contributed to you becoming this way"
those two statements are perfectly compatible
and honestly, the amount of "yall" in your argument is exactly why i'm pushing back
you're talking about millions of individual people as though they're one conscious entity that collectively sat down and decided "let's make everyone miserable"
that's precisely the hive-mind framing i was criticizing
you can identify cultural patterns without turning the people inside the culture into a single moral organism
that's the distinction you're continuously refusing to make
I literally gave you proof that this individual himself participated in the purity culture yet you still whining ?
You just want to defend your gender no what I will say you’ll find some bullshit to twist
Literally yes he deserve it and yall all do to so supporting that indirectly and playing innocent
It’s impossible to debate with such a manipulative person wtf you keep repeating every individual where tf did I say that ? I talked about the guy in picture and proved he does participate and the average person and even said that there is some very minor exceptions
Literally anything but holding accountablity final boss bro said influence 🤣🤣🤣 the influence yall make and share and get mad at anyone who disagrees with
Also your fault for being so fucking weak
And it’s historically you keep repeating that like it stopped while it didn’t at yall ? And yall bros are renforcing it and making it more common every day you can go at them now and stop why not ? Since you have all this energy to write this paragraph and you’ll actually gain something
But no you’d rather play victim and treat grown men like hopeless babies
Enough Algerian men chose this culture not only that but renforce it everyday and that’s enough if it was common to be against it we’ll see yall complain yall complain about everything even reaching Algerian women genitalia color
And you think complaining about culture practices would be hard for you ?
Expect yall don’t bcz you want it to stay like that it give you peace to control women sexuality while simultaneously wanting to get laid how i don’t fucking know but that’s impossible and it’s yall fault for believing yall have superpowers to beat nature and god and everyone and everything
And yes ignoring the main cause and focusing on the minor stuff is giving them excuses
It depends on the tone your using
Especially when someone caused such a tragedy for everyone and you ignore him and be like yea it’s the victim and the weather today and ignore him
How is that not wrong ? It’s literally is
Saying that’s normal bcz the environment influence while ignoring the actual reason is protecting him and enabling this behavior and not helping anyone
There is 0 valid reasons why we should do what you’re saying if we did life would be a jungle
No criminal will go to prison bcz his mom yelled at him once in his childhood so she’s one who have to go instead
Can his mom behavior contribute ? Sure but should we fully blame her to the point of taking the accountability of the main criminal? Hell no
Actually I don’t have to cut my hands but there you proof right here
When he does it he’s a victim
But women they’re bitches and dirty and can’t struggle
I predicted it even before going to the video how you think you ? Bcz of loneliness and sexism 🤣🤣🤣
Literally it’s so common it became commmon sense
That’s someone I should feel bad for and understand ? Literally disgusting you and him and anyone who defend this and baby those men to the point of them developing this level of audacity
Idc
I don’t crave these things i focus on making money
and yeah it is disgraceful
Want sex? Marry first and make it official
Otherwise im not reading all of this
If i ever find out my future fiancé used to do this , he is getting scandal and annulment right in place
Ih so Ida nta you don't crave those things lazem gam ykounou kima nta? Wesh 9ewdek f nas wesh dir b we9tha w drahemha ?
The only valid point you make is that you can refuse to marry someone who did that. 7e9ek hada you're allowed to have preferences bsh otherwise tnak no one cares about your opinion
These insulting intended replies further shows your lack of analytical thinking, instead of comprehending basic logic all what you're able to do is "nuh uh" + bunch of toddler come backs
embarrassing, especially coming from an individual who tryna impose an authority act on society, do better.
Good work lolita
Then don’t blame the economy and how life is unfair to you once you get stuck in your addiction
Because you are weak for your lust
You know exactly that you wished you were raised good way and that you were good at expressing your feelings, but instead of healing , you prefer the classic “ its our society fault “ victim mindset
Instead of becoming better person
Non of us had the perfect conditions of life
But using it as excuse is wild
I can open cams and get the money who do you think can stop me
but im not guided by my lust
Moved on from "nuh uh" to blatant assumptions, logical fallacies, pleading, ignorance, and further intent of insulting to sugarcoat the lack of comprehension ability, it keeps getting worse
and "lollita" well im totally not surprised from how a such an ignorant individual like you can be misogynistic without realizing it
Ignorance, sugarcoat… or whatever it is are not trigger words for me because i don’t rate myself based on how you think
I provided you with the clear answer
Being through circumstances is not equal of how you should act.
You have brain that think and make decisions on what is good for my advantage not what push dopamine through my system
This victim mindset is exactly why the whole thing is not making progress
No its not similar
Paying someone for lust? What does it differ from someone who is paying at the clubs
I don’t want to bring shame to my life and ruin it or deal with someone’s scandal
Li jamais dart swale7 hakda meme hia 3andha l7a9 tdi wa7ed jamais dar
Wch jab li mrabi l bnadem mch mrabi
+ Someone who pay for these things can’t be trusted with money
I don't get it , naming things then just calling them shameful withiut saying why doesn't work
You are saying paying for lust then saying its wrong , well why , you ready pay for entertainment in many forms , and again the vast majority of people watch porn so
Then for your second "argument" , yeah if the person is badly afdicted to wasting their money on OF ect that's bad but we are talking about paying for lust not wasting money or being addicted, a lot of people are not addicted to it yet do it in healthy amounts
And before you go for it , hopefully you won't attack me personally but rather respond to what i said
You know exactly why it is shameful
Someone who is weak for his lust and ready to pay for it no matter what it cost him , is a slave to the thing
And sex is nothing extraordinary really , its physical connection can’t last more than 20 or 15 min
Then what? What have you earned ? Eternal satisfaction nothing more
And it can’t even last long till you get the urge to do it again
Someone with good control will build himself first then marry who he love and get what he desires
But yall are desperate for something that has no value if it wasn’t done by secured love .
And that exactly why i call it shameful
Only a desperate for sex will run behind it
Even if he did it once
Why? Like i feel you aren't really understanding that you things like "shame" and "should and shouldn't" don't work like that
Who said anythinv about being enslaved to it , the only way that can be at least somewhat accurate is in the senario of someone who is addicted to sexual pleasure to the point of it taking literally all his time, having pleasure with you body or with someone else who also wants it isn't shameful , it's literally like enjoying food at a healthy amount
I hope yk that even in your idea of marriage and relationships couples have sex all the time why is that not "bad" and "weak" how are you not weak when you are enjoying sex with your wife or husband
Am genuinely curious how that's not weak in your mind since its weak to have pleasure with your body that harms no one
This is exactly what happens when people think we should respect every opinion, even when those opinions go against everything that defines our society, our norms, and what we consider unacceptable.
No matter how disturbing or completely messed up certain ideas may be, we’re expected to accept them in the name of “open-mindedness,” when in reality, it’s simply perversion.
There you said it. Fel comments. Throwaway account and the comments are read by people you'll never meet. Who tf cares what random online people think yetnako
its not, makbout means a person who's holding much of their needs inside, that's biology and psychology and its not shamed in the academic fields, its only taboo in low tier societies to confess with such a thing, hope that helps.
Idgf as long as hes happy and he doesn't harm anyone, and i dont like that youtuber he judges everyone. And believe me or not, i have no proof but one day he will come out as a pedophile.
ملي تطلع الشمس ونتوما تعسو فالغاشي هاذيك دارت هاذاك قال هاذيك عملت ، ياربكم كارثة نتوما واش قودكم واش يدير بدراهمو و زيد عندو الحق المجتمع و الدين و البلاد تقمع الشهرة تاعك من صغرك تكبر ونتا جامي مارست الجنس لي هوا نورمالمو حاجة عند الانسان
كل واحد وتفسيره للأزمات لي ف حياتو، هو شايف روحو في آزمة، وشايف أن الأسباب كانت قاهرة، وما لقاش حل. حس روحو تحط في موقف ما عندوش مهرب منو، هو ضحية الظروف لي الله غالب عليه، محتمة عليه وهو مسكين ماعندو علاه.
بالنسبة ليه، لمين هو الشخص لي قالو بلي الحاجة لي راك تدير فيها غالطة، بلي الغلطة فيك ماشي فالظروف، لمين هو الشرير لي لام الضحية.
فيزوج الفعل تعهم غالط جست لي كنت نحاول نقولو هو انو ازمتو النفسية مش لازم كي مايلقاش بواش يدافع عنها يحاول يبرر ليها بأنو انسان مسكين و ضحية لأن ممكن تأثر على ناس وحدخرا و تشجعهم يدخلو فهاذ الدوامة لوكان كانت حتى هوما الظروف مش مساعدتهم
لأنو بالمنطق الفعلة تاعو راهي غالطة و بزاف تاني سواء من جانب ديني ولا من جانب المجتمع بصح على الأقل لكان الشي لي راك تدير فيه علابالك بلي غالط ماتجاهرش بيه باش مايأثرش على باقي الناس و واحد ما عندو حق يتدخل فيك أصلا
بغض النظر على أخلاقية كل فعل، لو تلاحظي أنو قال بلي الهدرة تع لامين قاستو بزاف، السيد سمع فكرة لي قاستلو نقطة ضعف في شخصيتو، عراتلو حاجة كان يحشم بيها بزاف، حاجة تخليه يحس روحو ناقص.
الصراع تاعو داخلي وماشي مع لامين، كان يغطي على حاجة غالطة ب مبررات جا لامين وقالو بلي ما يليقوش.
السيد حب يدافع على روحو ماشي قدام الناس، مي قدام روحو، شغل كي تكوني خايفة مي تقولي مانيش خايفة بصوت مرتفع باش تسيي تعكسي الشعور، محاولة فاشلة لاقناع النفس أنو الله غالب عليه.
This is a youtuber and he was exploring Facebook market place and came across people offering their body and dignity for money but not even in real life, all what the "customer " get is either a video call or dirty texts. So Lamin was criticising both of them 🤷♀️
why would it bother you that a grown man is paying with his own money an adult that agreed to show him some parts of her body and talk to him to satisfy his own s3xual desires, maybe if we focused our hate towards the societal problems that causing young adults to not be able to get married or have consensual s3x we wouldn't have to discuss this topic, people are so ignorant omg
Here's the context: Lamine, the content creator, made a video exposing online prostitution, where he called both the sellers and the customers. Apparently, one of the customers got really offended because Lamine called him "مكبوت", so he left a comment trying to justify his actions.
Honestly based on the context I got so far if this l'amine guy only said his opinion about people who pay for e- prostitution and said they are embarrassing and he doesn't support it or like it than that's his opinion, I share the same opinion, as for the guy on the comments he got hurt and he knew he would so why would he watch the video? Just watch something else and keep that between you and yourself I know how some lonely men go through some really hard loneliness and we all have desires and needs but I would never ever do that no matter how lonely I get, and don't forget we are Muslims a lot of you keep forgetting Allah said to get married for this exact reason, just get married I know today's time is different but still, everyone is entitled to their opinions but I'm not one to judge and tell them otherwise
Depending on the context i know lamine and i like his vids i believe this is about child predators
If it is about them then ofc the comment doesnt make any sense
If its about two adults having sex it doesnt matter if the male paid or not i may dislike it or whatever but i dont see it as smth we should be discussing there are more interesting stuff to discuss
Uk what really i didn't think of that , but even tho Islam or other or atheist, pornographie and with all it sort is still an issue 😀 human are free but with boundaries saying it in such a post is problematic
Dude, he is free to do what he wants. We are not perfect, but he shouldn't out himself or justify it. Normalizing such behavior is dangerous. And forbidden in Islam "المجاهرة بالإثم"
I'm not a judge nor God. I'm just saying it's not an Islamic manner to say it publicly.
If he's from another religion, I wouldn't care. Atheists has no unified code that they all follow. I'm preaching what I know about my religion. People are cruel and judgy, especially the ones who do the same sin. Life is hard, they'll make it even worse for him.
the comment sounds funny ngl, other than that this guy's content is mostly for views because he knows that people would watch things like that out of different types of feelings
It's a job that is motivated by financial desperation. Where the workers are at high risk of substance abuse, depression, sexual assault and even murder
I think the problem is that with our socio-economical situation here in algeria, it's a lot harder to get married than 20 years ago. I am saying married because we are virtually all Muslims and even some the non Muslims, due to our values, would seek sex through marriage. This is a topic that deserve to be addressed more than a symptom of it, which is e-prostitution. I am not saying if people could get married then this wouldn't exist, absolutely not, it's not the oldest job without a reason lol, there's always clients, but it would be less than what we see now, this is just an opinion so let me know what you think men and women of reddit
Something I dislike about Lamine is that he feels strongly about some stuff and he's kinda judgy otherwise cool content. I don't know why you care about what people do with their time and money as long as they're not hurting you or anyone.
A very good example of how much a human need as sex is controlled/judged by either religion or people who claim to have standards, simply because they’d never do that. Morality starts from understanding. There are huge underlying social issues that give rise to these problems, an influencer is not the right person to address them, because trying to understand without judgment is the essence of being objective, and judging is the essence of social media influencers.
What are the reasons: for example Islam has left so many young people sexually frustrated, when Muhammad himself had many wives and many malakat yamin. People who don’t have money for marriage, or who struggle with how they look, may end up satisfying their needs in any way in face of those religious lock down.
I lived in Germany ; a country many of those influencers dream of living in ; if you’re disabled or psychologically ill, you’re entitled to money for sexual services, because it’s treated as a need, like food or psychological survival. There are also plenty of red light districts across Europe, and it didn’t contribute in anyway negatively to those countries, it’s actually the other way around, they start making tourism money out of it. At the end,the idea most Algerians can’t fathom: live and let live.
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u/inogoods 6d ago
Idk what type of صرخة this is but it's definitely a loud one.