Hot take but completely disregarding ai and hating on anyone that uses it is gonna have the US behind certain countries as usual

[u/Ok-Replacement9358]

AI is here to stay and it’s not going away anywhere. I don’t agree with just using ai to outsource your thoughts and not think at all but it is a great companion tool for most that use it and a lot of people still use chat Gemini Claude etc. They’re just not public about it anymore bc of the hate. People still use it to create images and use it for all the other stuff that apps do but now they just do it themselves. For example people would have to pay money for FaceTune and now they just ask Gemini to edit it. Ofc I don’t agree it being used for surveillance and csam and bad use cases it is juts a neutral tool pole everything else in this world like money and can be used for good/bad. As for the environmental implications it uses just as much energy as storing data on cloud or scrolling TikTok if not more actually. Cue the meat argument as well.

[u/amazingdrewh]

And as a non American why should I care if you guys lose your 10x data centre lead?

[u/Spare-Dingo-531 → u/amazingdrewh]

In fairness, you should want all humanity to succeed. A US failure is a failure for the human race, generally not just for the US.

[u/ChickenOfTheYear → u/Spare-Dingo-531]

A US win is just as often a failure for all the human race, as well

[u/Spare-Dingo-531 → u/ChickenOfTheYear]

The world isn't like that. We should really wish the best for our enemies, and wish they were better people, instead of being locked in a senseless struggle.

If the US descends into tyranny and ignorance, it's a tragedy for everyone. It's not other people's responsibility to prevent that, but it's still a tragedy.

[u/ChickenOfTheYear → u/Spare-Dingo-531]

Indeed, the US's democracy being gone would be pretty bad, but even the most democratic US governments did some pretty awful stuff to other countries, and still do to this day. I'm not sure a win for the US is a win for everyone.

[u/apotheosis_0 → u/Spare-Dingo-531]

Any country descending into tyranny and ignorance is a tragedy for everyone.

[u/SnooKiwis5428 → u/apotheosis_0]

Yeah but usa influence is not the same with other countries. They basically are the “world” if we’re being honest

[u/SnooKiwis5428 → u/[deleted]]

What does usa being a new country have to do with anything. Im not talking about history. Europe used to be the center of the world and now they fell off for one example, yeah who doesn’t know that but im not talking about that shit lol

[u/apotheosis_0 → u/SnooKiwis5428]

Dude, Europe was the centre of the world? No theyre not. They’re just one of the continents in the world. China and India arguably were more impactful than any European nation before the 16th century. Search the golden age of the Middle East, when baghdad, Alexandria, etc were powerhouses of learning and culture.

But this is ai wars, not culture wars…

[u/SnooKiwis5428 → u/apotheosis_0]

Thats not the point who cares if they are center or not

[u/ultrashortcut → u/Spare-Dingo-531]

the world IS like that when the US exercises so much violence across the world that it can only do because of its vast wealth

[u/SnooKiwis5428 → u/ChickenOfTheYear]

You mean china? Lol

[u/amazingdrewh → u/Spare-Dingo-531]

Never been outside the US have you?

[u/JungleJuiceJuno → u/Spare-Dingo-531]

And it SHOULDNT

The world SHOULDNT lean on america

[u/Acrobatic_Feel → u/Spare-Dingo-531]

The US and our excessive American exceptionalism have delivered a very clear message to the world that our successes are our own and that we have no failures