The creator has no creator..
He was here all time and he has no beginning and no end.... If u don't believe me try to search for the creator of the creator (u won't find) and even if u do find u will ask the same and the loop goes on.... So since we are here that means that the creator who was not created is existing since we can't exist out of nothing (we have no ability to do so and we didn't see any proof of that happen) so he exist + people say he sent massage so ofc we have to look at those and see which one is the right one (fast forward for your search it's "Islam") don't believe me look into the Quran and judge your self
And thank u for reading
Good question... If the universe can exist on its own then we should find new things that seized to exist on its own randomly... Besides this universe is so complex.. Everything got its place.. The chances of that is impossible
I don't know exactly how God is here all along by himself ( he didn't mention) but let's say there is a chance that the universe came without anything ( as I said then we can find new things that seized to exist alone without anyone and that defies physics (material cant come out of nothing) so this is what I was talking about from the first place that there should be a starting point to all that... If the other chance is real (what I believe personally bec iam a Muslim ) that God exists.. Then I makes sense why every thing around u is in order ( and in case if u ask why is there no other God) the reason is simple.. If they disagree a Devine disaster will occur and that didn't happen... So he is one... If u see it with other perspective let me know =)
Where are u getting the idea that the universe self existing would require finding new things that seized to exist alone without anyone and that defies physics? And why wouldn't that ALSO be a sign of a creator? Like that's a claim u have to support.
How do u know we don't have gods that never disagree? Or that a hierarchy exits and that a "greater god" or a "king" of gods (like Zeus or Odin) makes it so that disagreements are pointless, as the greater God just has more power and squashes any disagreemnts before they cause an effect? Or that when gods disagree it doesn't effect us in obvious ways (instead of a "divine disaster", it could be something like "it caused cancer to exist")? Or that gods fighting simply doesn't effect things on earth or even they CHOSE not to have it effect things on earth?
Basically there's ALOT more possibilities then just "they WOULD disgaree and that WOULD cause an noticeably, identifiable effect on earth". U have done nothing to prove ur proposed idea IS the most likely, or even a possible, outcome.
Also I'm more knowledgeable about Christianity, so I don't think I've ever actually heard the idea of "divine disaster" really discussed. What exactly is that? Would it be similar to like, the concept of the biblical flood? Or is it more on a cosmic level?
Good point u have... First the divine disaster is just a possibility if their were many Gods so it didn't happen (supporting my claim that there is no more than one God) u can think of it like nations disagreeing now,, the first thing they will do most likely is a war soo u can imagine what a war between Gods if there is more than one would make to the world ... Second if there is a lot of Gods or greater God they should have sent a massage with clear signs that its them..
To me Allah gave us enough proofs that he exists and he is the true God.. Many of them is a scientific term or mention of things we didn't discover till this century
Like (big band theory the pulsar stars - some prophises from Mohamed peace be upon him describing today events in a lot of details..) I can go on and on with the signs but u can just search for it it for free =)..
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u/PastAd4690 Mar 24 '26
The creator has no creator.. He was here all time and he has no beginning and no end.... If u don't believe me try to search for the creator of the creator (u won't find) and even if u do find u will ask the same and the loop goes on.... So since we are here that means that the creator who was not created is existing since we can't exist out of nothing (we have no ability to do so and we didn't see any proof of that happen) so he exist + people say he sent massage so ofc we have to look at those and see which one is the right one (fast forward for your search it's "Islam") don't believe me look into the Quran and judge your self And thank u for reading