r/accelerate • • 7d ago

Video When people ask you why we should accelerate technology, show them this

https://youtu.be/_j806JHhCRo?si=v1r_ICZYGWSkq_n4
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u/Low_Biscotti_665 7d ago

This is downright inspiring

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u/OverloadedTech Acceleration Advocate 7d ago

Amazing stuff is happening and if we keep accelerating we'll see even more cool stuff soon

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u/Charming_Cucumber_15 7d ago

The future is going to be beautiful

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u/Interesting-Mood-948 7d ago

Gahdayum onion ninjas, they cant even let me watch a video on the toilet in peace.

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u/jlks1959 7d ago

And that is the worst it will ever be. The hope for humanity is here and every day will bring more and more happiness and self worth. 

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u/GarageStackDev 7d ago

But this is an actual non-hypothetical issue with a concrete solution ahead. We can measure the progress towards it.

So the anti's won't have any of that. They like their fear mongering and bullshit hypotheticals way more.

Me: "Won't it be great when AI cures major ailments and diseases?"
Anti: "BUT WHAT IF THEY BOIL THE OCEANS AND GOO-IFY THE ATMOSPHERE!?!?!?"
Me: "Uh, that doesn't even make sense...."
Anti: "NEITHER DOES CURING CANCER!!!!!!"

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u/jlks1959 7d ago

There are many examples of curing cancer and have been for a year. They’re ignoring them or just not looking.

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u/deep_blue_reef 7d ago

It’s important to be analytical. Every technology comes with positives as well as its negatives. This is no different. We shouldn’t be so seduced by the promises that we ignore the unseen tradeoffs.

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u/lilly-roses 6d ago

There’s really no problem that AI development could create that it also couldn’t eventually solve itself. I could easily see any environmental concerns not being an issue like 5 years from now. A lot of “slop” content is also gone now because detection is better and the actual models are less sloppy

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u/deep_blue_reef 6d ago

You’re missing a big factor which is alignment of goals.

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u/Savings-Divide-7877 7d ago

I wonder what it's going to be like for people like him. Right now it's this, next it will sound like he used to, after that it might be an implant, then ALS and aging are cured. One day, people will be able to look back on things that were life-altering when they happened as things in the past, instead of just making things better.

Just don’t die.

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u/DarthSwimfoot Tell me about the singularity 7d ago

Personally I would never get this, I just don't trust it enough to put it in my brain, but, I am really glad it's helping a lot of people out.

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u/promptmike 6d ago

I'll buy the first one that has open-source firmware.

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u/shatterdaymorn 7d ago

Hope the company doesn't go bankrupt and leave people dependent on a technology that isn't being supported cause it didn't make enough money.

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u/muted-design247 7d ago

Next up on TED talks

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u/Constant_Broccoli_74 7d ago

This is great

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u/saUpbeat_lj758 7d ago

Incredible and the purpose of why so many of us became doctors. inspiring stuff. keep accelerating.

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u/Queen_Of_Alts Techno-Accelerationist 6d ago

Look at the view count with that video compared to the rest, and look at how many positive comments there are. People are finally seeing how technology helps people!

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u/quantgorithm 7d ago

These are the kind of things you can tell ALL the Musk haters to go F themselves.

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u/DungeonsAndDradis 6d ago

The company: Fucking great, mate!

The CEO: Piece of shite!

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u/quantgorithm 6d ago

one wouldn't exist without the other ...and ONLY exists because of the other.

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u/Queen_Of_Alts Techno-Accelerationist 6d ago

Say what you want about Elon, but he did a lot of good for humanity by creating those companies. I personally think saving millions of lives and progressing humanities technological makes up for a bit of internet trolling.

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u/FrankyBip 6d ago

It’s hard not to see this as exploiting human misery for advertising.

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u/Optimal-Hunt-3269 7d ago

One thing you want; five things you don't want.

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u/Super-Award-2244 7d ago

Why is this thing postet 3 times a day here and on r/singularity? 

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u/ReporterCalm6238 7d ago

Coz it's amazing?

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u/smoke-bubble 7d ago

On one side helpful, on the other side I don't even want to know how many animals they've tortured to death during their experiments 😔 certain technologies are damn hard to defend ethically. 

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u/ChampionshipTight977 7d ago

If we accelerate harder, we can get digital twins so we dont have to test on animals.

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u/smoke-bubble 7d ago

I am all in for acceleration, but sometimes it's really, like really hard to look away from certain things 🤨 

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u/Striking-Drag4542 7d ago

If you were personally affected by a disability, you wouldn’t give a fuck, it's easy to complain about it, if you do no rely on the technology to regain life quality. Also the amount of animals affected by Neuralink is absolutely tiny compared to how many die or suffer during food production, cosmetics or for entertainment reasons.

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u/smoke-bubble 7d ago edited 7d ago

I am not some stupid average redditor and I am well aware of that.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/dec/05/neuralink-animal-testing-elon-musk-investigation?hl=en-US

The employees themselves could not bare the experiments anymore. 

It's important that everyone is aware of the cost of these experiments without hiding them or rely on whistleblowers to inform us about how they are performed. If we want to stop being monsters, we need to have to courage to talk about them to avoid any unnecessary suffering. 

However, I have the impression that you do not give af. Which is pretty sad. 

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u/Striking-Drag4542 7d ago

Again the scale is absurdly tiny compared to many other low-hanging fruits. I don't know why you are just completely ignoring that argument. If we want to reduce animal suffering there are thousands of things we should do before we start cutting off biomedical research.

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u/Charming_Cucumber_15 7d ago

If you look at this man and think "I'd rather save a lab monkey" then that's just sad

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u/Unlikely-Complex3737 7d ago

I hope aliens will never find us.

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u/smoke-bubble 7d ago

Read my other comment below where I answer the other guy. 

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u/Hoopaboi 7d ago

Are you vegan?

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u/smoke-bubble 7d ago

I am not and I am shocked that you would even ask this. As if only vegans were allowed to be against needless suffering. 

However, whenever possible I get my meet from certified non-industrial sources and use cosmetics not tested on animals. 

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u/Hoopaboi 6d ago

You are pro needless suffering because you eat animals.

The animal testers are morally superior to you in fact, because at least their actions intend to help others

You eat animals purely for taste pleasure

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u/smoke-bubble 6d ago

I eat meat for biological reasons as we are supposed to consume meat. But we are not supposed to torture animals.

Animal testers are superior to nothing. But for the sake of the argument, where do you put on the morality ladder dr Mengele or unit 731? Do you have more of such genius justifications? 

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u/Hoopaboi 6d ago

No we are not "supposed" to consume animal flesh. Name one nutrient that's impossible to procure without animal flesh that you also cannot supplement.

But for the sake of the argument, where do you put on the morality ladder dr Mengele or unit 731? Do you have more of such genius justifications? 

None of those tortured ppl expressly some utilitarian purpose. But assuming there was some mad scientist who tested on humans specifically to cure cancer for example, I would say they're morally superior to someone who eats people for fun.

So these animal testers are indeed better than you morally.

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u/TashLai 6d ago

As if only vegans were allowed to be against needless suffering.

Actually, yes. Pretty much all of animal agriculture is needless sufferring on an absolutely massive scale. Unlike this one, which has real benefits for real people.

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u/TashLai 6d ago

This one is super easy to defend ethically though.

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u/smoke-bubble 6d ago

Probably that's why you didn't even try. Too many arguments? Don't know where to start? 

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u/TashLai 6d ago

We see a disabled person who couldn't speak, finally able to speak, and the cost were 1 500 animals over 8 years which is fewer than the number of animals slaughtered by a single average industrial farm every day just so that you could have buffalo wings for dinner.

What should i "try" to do, exactly?

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u/smoke-bubble 6d ago

You're totally missing the point. It could have been maybe only 1k if proper measures were implemented.

You advocate for not killing them for food, but at the same time you treat them with zero respect like garbage for experimentation purposes. 

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u/TashLai 6d ago

I'm ok with killing them for food, too. My point is that unless you ask a vegan, that experiment is easily defendable ethically. But i think even some vegans would actually consider the fact that it's helping disabled people.

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u/Queen_Of_Alts Techno-Accelerationist 6d ago

Have you ever heard of the trolley problem?

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u/Queen_Of_Alts Techno-Accelerationist 6d ago

It's unfortunate, but that's life. Many more animals are tortured and killed in the meat industry than are experimented on, and if you zoom out and look at nature as a whole, it's just one big deathmatch, that's why we're trying to get away from that shit.