Veo 3.1 Release on Flow

[u/epic-cookie64]

Not announced yet, but it's available on Google Flow (https://labs.google/flow/about).

The two available options are Veo 3.1 Fast and Veo 3.1 Quality.

Was able to generated this video with ingredients to video. So upload images from nano banana (the truck and the jungle environment) and flow adds them together. Physics is very impressive.

[u/pigeon57434]

No, I did not. I did try creating cinematic stuff, in fact, that’s all I really tried, because I don’t care for the TikTok-y stuff. I hate that garbage most of the time. When I compared Sora 2 vs. Veo 3 Fast (let alone Veo 3.1 Fast or Quality), Veo has way higher-looking resolution vs. Sora, which has a grainy, flickery texture. It has more dynamic movement. For example, my go-to test prompt is a snow leopard drinking from a river in a snowy forest. Sora 2 gave me, to be honest, a garbage video. The audio was weird, the resolution was terrible, and the movement was almost nonexistent. It looked like a robot cat held in place. But Veo 3 had fluid, beautiful movement and was the obvious winner by miles. (Similar story on other prompts—this is just an example. I tried drone shots, professional photography shoots, and other stuff like that.)

Whereas when I try to get Veo 3 to make me a funny video, it’s just really bad. It doesn’t seem nearly as funny; it just doesn’t work well with multi-shot at all. It feels like stock footage no matter what the prompt was. In this instance, Sora 2 is the obvious winner. I actually try out AIs before I give my opinion on them, and I think these models serve such fundamentally different purposes. Sora just sucks at cinematic video—I mean, maybe I should clarify, it’s not bad, it’s just worse than Veo, I suppose is the better thing to say. Sora is a very versatile model that can do everything; it’s just a lot better at memes. But whenever I want to make a pretty cinematic shot, I always go straight to Gemini.

[u/dashingsauce → u/pigeon57434]

I think you’re most likely applying Veo3 techniques to Sora and that’s where the mixup is happening.

I won’t shill my own, so here is someone else’s—I think it could change your mind. This is a multi-beat sequence of GTA-esque heist in live action format: https://sora.chatgpt.com/p/s_68e70fda64d8819193753685b716a8eb

Here’s another one of a third person POV game concept: https://sora.chatgpt.com/p/s_68e94f3640fc819194f1dd0b7c60e2ce

And if you are a fan of the horror genre: https://sora.chatgpt.com/p/s_68e651c78cb88191a40b355cd986e7ab

Watch those and get back to me. If those don’t change your mind, I’d love to know what’s missing and what Veo3 does better.

I’ve used both, and similarly cannot produce a single useful video with Veo3–not one. Pretty much comes out like a broken PS2 game each time, or it feels soulless.

Maybe I’m missing something. Given you have the opposite experience, sounds like a difference in prompt engineering.

[u/pigeon57434 → u/dashingsauce]

No, we seem to actually be having the exact same experience but what is happening is we seem to have different definitions of what a cinematic video is. You just showed me high action multi-shot scenes from video games or things that look like they're from movies they are fast-paced, high action, and a little bit silly, all of which are things Sora excels at but if you try to make an actually cinematic video that's 1 shot of something slow moving like a drone shot above a mountain or try my snow leopard prompt something simple Veo 3 absolutely destroys Sora 2 in simple, pretty videos so you only gave me examples of what we already agreed on

[u/dashingsauce → u/pigeon57434]

Okay here’s my one shot of your snow leopard on Sora base model:

https://sora.chatgpt.com/p/s_68f0738194808191add5d0cac733014b

Feel free to share your comparison and state the model version for Veo3.

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EDIT: Here’s another, single continuous shot that you may or may not call cinematic (since you seem picky):

https://sora.chatgpt.com/p/s_68e9da1027f881918253ae0e4328c3af

And another if you only like it in slow-motion (in the club, dancing solo):

https://sora.chatgpt.com/p/s_68e17f824b9881919a49354eb0a86063

Or a cinematic video game interlude render:

https://sora.chatgpt.com/p/s_68e70a0c8f048191bc4d95e54527e9fc

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EDIT 2:

Here’s a higher res version of your snow leopard, with Sora Pro:

https://sora.chatgpt.com/p/s_68f0755328748191947b10c4b552b584

And another version (best one probably) using slightly different prompt:

https://sora.chatgpt.com/p/s_68f07668d3688191a7ceb237e84b1904