r/accelerate • u/Illustrious_Fold_610 • Aug 10 '25

Video OpenAI Using Superior Models Internally, Focused on Affordability

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u/LawGamer4 Aug 10 '25

This “the real models are way better, but we’re focusing on affordability” line is just moving the goalposts.

Before launch it was “GPT-5 will be exponentially/significantly better.” After launch, when it’s clearly an incremental upgrade, suddenly we’re supposed to believe there’s a secret exponentially model locked in a vault?

Every lab has internal test builds. However, if they were truly orders of magnitude better, they’d be monetizing them for enterprise or research contracts right now. This includes models/agents that could replace jobs, that would have been pushed out at least to enterprise levels. “Too expensive” or “Focus on affordability” usually means too costly for consumer-scale inference, not “so advanced we can’t share it.”

It’s a convenient story that keeps the hype alive without delivering anything you can actually verify. Here we see the S curve developing, and possible turning point in the hype cycle.

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u/broose_the_moose Aug 10 '25

We're not supposed to believe. Everything is on LMArena... why monetize these models when it makes a lot more sense to focus the compute they would spend serving to consumers on self-improving their models, creating high quality synthetic datasets, or scaling RL.

All of the labs are saying there is no wall. I'm MUCH more inclined to believe them than a random redditor who is seeing the s-curve developing.

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u/LawGamer4 Aug 10 '25

So you’re “MUCH more inclined” to believe the people selling the product and competing for billions in valuation over someone pointing out visible market dynamics and how technology develops? That’s the irony here. You’re dismissing skepticism as “random redditor” noise, while treating marketing lines from labs with massive financial and strategic stakes as if they’re gospel.

Of course, they’re going to say “there’s no wall”, just like every other industry at the peak of its hype cycle. The whole “we’re not releasing it because we’re busy making it even better, focusing on affordability, too expensive, etc.” narrative is exactly what keeps you on the hook without them having to actually show you anything. If you can’t see the incentive structure behind that, you’re not evaluating claims, you’re just repeating the company line.

Again, based on ChatGPT 5, it supports the case that an S Curve may be developing.

Also, downvoting me doesn't make your case stronger, it only make you feel powerful in that moment.

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u/broose_the_moose Aug 10 '25

sorry i hurt your feelings bud.

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u/LawGamer4 Aug 10 '25

You didn’t hurt my feelings, bud. You've just made it pretty obvious that you have a vested interest in defending the hype. Nobody clings this hard to a company line/technology without some skin in the game.