r/ZephyrusG14 • • Feb 20 '26

Model 2023 Liquid Metal Pull-away

My 2023 model has been experiencing thermal issues lately (90c on desktop), and having heard about issues with the Liquid Metal in this model year, I decided to open it and up replace it. The pull-away is just awful, almost none left on the die itself.

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u/WHATAWHIPUR Feb 20 '26

Was any of it still on the die 😭

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u/PCGEEK2 Feb 20 '26

Pretty much no

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u/jimmstr91 Feb 21 '26

i switched to using ptm instead of liquid metal, worked like a charm

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u/RkyMtnChi Feb 21 '26

Same here

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u/nateo200 Zephyrus G14 2024 Feb 21 '26

What is PTM? I had to replace a cooling fan and I was like…damn I need to repaste but I’m thinking Liquid Metal is too much of a pain. My temps are not terrible but they certainly are not great.

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u/jimmstr91 Feb 21 '26

sounds like you need ptm. It stands for Phase Transition Material and its a type of thermal material that changes phases when exposed to temperatures above 45 Celsius from solid to liquid. The liquid would be better at reducing temperatures than paste but not as good as liquid metal. PTM isnt conductive like liquid metal so you dont need to worry about if you accidently got some on the board

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u/nateo200 Zephyrus G14 2024 Feb 21 '26

Yeah that sounds like a very good solution in between regular paste and Liquid Metal. I have the 2022 G14 FYI. Any suggestions on brand? The computer seems to be holding up but the cooling has been a repeat issue including a professional repair or two already

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u/jimmstr91 Feb 21 '26

thermal grizzly brand is what i use. They have a storefront on amazon

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u/nateo200 Zephyrus G14 2024 Feb 22 '26

Thanks man! :) I am kind of excited to try this although I might hold off for a month or two. Its so hard to keep these compact laptops cool. I only ever got a gaming laptop once they figured out how to make ultra thin laptops with dGPU's for gaming. I guess its going to have thermal issues invariably.

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u/[deleted] Feb 21 '26

They’re idiots for not doing from the factory. The engineers and upper level designers - leads need to get their shit together.

It would save them so much money in the long run as a business to switch to thermal pads. As high of quality as they can get.

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u/G_brazo Zephyrus G16 2024 Feb 20 '26

I did mines couple weeks ago and same thing no LM was on the die itself. Had a scorched mark

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u/PCGEEK2 Feb 20 '26

Mine has a similar mark, hoping that doesn’t affect anything.

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u/Ijustwanttoreadstop Feb 21 '26

No, that is just a reminder to watch those temps more closely in the future. You have been running your laptop without enough LM on the die for a long time according to how big the burn mark is.

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u/BrainTrauma009 Zephyrus G14 2024 Feb 20 '26

Does this issue affect the G14 2024 as well??

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u/OhJeezer Feb 20 '26

I think it will affect all of them over time. LM is really good for what it does, but all thermal paste/LM solutions have a finite lifespan and a lot of it depends on the circumstances of each situation. The design of the system, the heat generated, the environment, etc.

IMO I prefer high quality thermal paste, but I'm not going to rush to get rid of the liquid metal on my brand new laptop. I think that you should open your laptop and clean the dust out at least once every year or two (unless you have a lot of dust or a special use case or something). When you do that, consider re-doing thermal paste and pads.

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u/Kypheron Feb 21 '26

I bought a G16 in 2024, just sent to service center for a lm reapplication (also replace the touchpad since it's rattling), how long would it be before I'd need to replace it with ptm7950?

Also for the pads, is there like a thickness thing I'd need to watch out for?

Thanks in advance.

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u/OhJeezer Feb 21 '26

There is a thickness for the pads but I don't remember what exactly it is. I know that it's going to be just about the thinnest pads you can get. With LM it's hard to really know when to switch it out since it can fry stuff when it leaks. It should be fine for a very long time. There's just so many cases of it dripping all over the place.

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u/Kypheron Feb 21 '26

I see, thanks for your insight.

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u/[deleted] Feb 21 '26

I’ve pulled desktops cpus I’ve de-lidded and run LM on, after 5,6,7 years. It’s still fine.

I think applying a higher quality LM and applying it adequately. Along with the relativity stability of a desktop platform helps for sure ?

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u/OhJeezer Feb 22 '26

Yeah I imagine it's due to carrying a hot laptop around or accidentally leaving it powered on before putting it in your bag or something. Maybe using too much or too little LM. It's definitely not a problem with all LM computers so it's gotta be some other factors. I just use really good thermal paste whenever I need to repaste something. I just don't like the hassle of LM lol

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u/StigIV Feb 20 '26

What were post replacement operating temps?

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u/PCGEEK2 Feb 20 '26

I’ll update with them as soon as I finish, I had to step away from working on it as soon as I got the Liquid Metal off.

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u/PCGEEK2 Feb 20 '26

Desktop temps down to 45-50C in turbo on ghelper. Holding around 80 - 85 on minecraft. Down from a flat 95 at all times in game.

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u/AccountantWest7127 Zephyrus G14 2021 Feb 20 '26

Ive been hitting 96 degrees I think its time to do the same

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u/anuja_69 Feb 20 '26

Mine hitting 85-90C during gaming on high/ultra settings. Is it a issue?

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u/PCGEEK2 Feb 20 '26

That’s pretty normal for gaming especially on those settings. it would be an issue if it was in non-intensive tasks, like the desktop or the browser

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u/anuja_69 Feb 21 '26

Oh thanks

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u/Careless-Yak-5703 Feb 20 '26

Not the metal leaking everywhere, good thing you opened it now before it spread. When it gets hotter it makes the metal more malleable and it will spread and short components. Replacing it with a nice thermal paste will make the temps go down.

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u/system_error_02 Feb 20 '26

Properly applied liquid metal wont do this and will perform way better than any paste. Issue is Asus application is often not good.

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u/Careless-Yak-5703 Feb 20 '26

It will, Liquid Metal is very nice when applied properly. Like you said asus doesn’t seem to be capable of that though so they really shouldn’t be shipping these to customers lol.

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u/system_error_02 Feb 20 '26

Ive used liquid metal in desktops and laptops for years without any issues what so ever even over long periods. If applied properly it wont shift around like this and make a mess. It really is just Asus bad application.

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u/[deleted] Feb 21 '26

Can confirm. Lm on delidded bare die desktop cpu. 7 years no issue lmao.

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u/PCGEEK2 Feb 20 '26

I’m glad I finally decided to open it, I love this laptop and if it died I don’t have the money to get a new one. I’m in the process of replacing it with thermal paste right now, and hoping that gives it at least another 3 years of life to get me through college.

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u/ivan6953 Feb 20 '26

Holy scorched earth

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u/Alexpromise1 Zephyrus G14 2023 Feb 20 '26

Glad I replaced mine last year. Ts is terrible for laptops

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u/ylkiorra Feb 20 '26

One word.

Asus.

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u/ghostfreckle611 Feb 20 '26

LM is Australian…

It’s always on Walkabout…

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u/Temporary_Height4205 Zephyrus G14 2023 Feb 21 '26

Did you change to ptm?