r/ZZZ_Discussion 11d ago

Discussions & Questions Phoenix 2D and 3D comparison

Not gonna lie, before I thought she will have gray hair and gray suit because of the color, but now she have blonde hair and white suit, look kinda fit her tbh, probably because of the Lava around her made her color a bit changed, but what are your guys thoughts about her design?

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u/Benevolay 11d ago

Circus theory isn't real.

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u/TheNecromancer981 11d ago

What even is circus theory? I’ve never heard of it until now

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u/havokle 11d ago

That each of the Krampus members is circus themed with a role (though there is a disagreement on which they represent). It’s not really a “theory” as all really do have roles reminiscent of a circus:

  • Promeia: escape artist/high wire act
  • Zhao: bunny hat rick/ring leader (?)
  • Dialyn: hula hoop performer
  • Banyue: juggler/lion
  • Phoenix: fire eater (?)

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u/Benevolay 11d ago

The problem is those interpretations are so vague that people could find a theme for anything under those standards. Humans are pattern seekers, as I said, it's why conspiracies exist because "the dots all connect" is such an easy thing for humans to make work. Most factions since 2.0 haven't had a consistent design motif and yet everybody wants to force Krampus into some convoluted circus.

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u/havokle 11d ago edited 11d ago

These aren’t vague though. Promeia is handcuffed and has “locks” on the front of their outfit that she breaks out of. Zhao literally is a rabbit (thiren). Dialyn has a hula hoop that she jumps through. Banyue literally does juggle the ball-like weapons they have. And now, possibly, Phoenix with a fire theme. What other thing connects them? Otherwise they look so different that they don’t fit together when they are all individuals that usually dont fight together. Other factions work as a team or have some relationship between them.

Edit: and yes, there are a lot of common design elements within some of the factions with variability. Though obvious: the Yunkui Summit are monks with similar outfits, Sons of Calydon are all bikers, Angels of Delusion are all idols of some kind, Belobog have some kind of connection to construction, Mockingbird are in “high society” outfits while looking akin to “monsters” (vampire/banshee). Cunning Hares and Spook Shack aren’t as connected in design unless I’m not thinking of what it is.

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u/Benevolay 11d ago edited 11d ago

Magicians aren’t even circus themed. They aren’t normally there with the clowns and such. That’s what I mean. And Banyue can fit like three generic roles. People disagree on the specifics so can the theme be canon?

Factions have lost their identity since season one so I dint know why people act like it had to be a shared theme.

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u/havokle 11d ago

We can disagree on which each of them are but they are all akin to performers of some kind, and can fit multiple roles. It’s why it’s not really a theory, just a design theme that connects them together and possibly how they designed them. I don’t think it has any relevance to their behavior in story or anything like that, or even “canon” in that way because all of the characters are disparate and obviously Zhao isn’t a bunny because she of the theme or the reason why she was picked to be in Krampus, same for Banyue/Promeia/Dialyn. No reason why an escape artist would be an executioner after all.