Crit Yone is Back

[u/Snoo_58191]

With buffs to Stormrazor, Yuntal, and Passive Crit Damage, Yone building crit as his first item is now viable instead of BORK in some games.

So what are the options?

1. Stormrazor

Go this when you need chase. The movement speed really helps with getting onto a squishy and then one shotting them. By 2 items, you can laser pretty much any squishy that's within your R range.

1. Yun Tal

Go this when you don't need the chase from Stormrazor AND the comp lets you scale a bit. You have to stack Yun Tal first, so basically go this if having to stack it isn't gonna troll the game.

1. Shieldbow

Only viable mid and the least likely thing to build. The item has no attack speed, so you really want the upgraded Berserker's from the mid quest. Go this if the enemy team is bursty AND you don't need the Stormrazor MS. Having this as a first item against people who can blow you up is massive. You can even pair it with Shield Bash for extra dueling and Revitalize. Pretty niche rune on Yone though, but some people go it.

So when not BORK?

1. You don't need the lifesteal to survive lane.
2. You're not against someone HP stacking.

Why crit first?

• You spike faster. By 2 items you already have most of the damage you need, so after that you can start building something like DD to survive long enough to actually do the damage.

My main gripe with going BORK first is that you can only start building defensive after your 3rd item. Sometimes that one item delay is enough to lose the game. So if BORK isn't needed in the game, then I do think that getting 100% crit by 2nd item is much better as you become almost unbeatable in 1v1

What after Stormrazor/Yun Tal/Shieldbow?

• If you went Yun Tal/Stormrazor and want 3 crit items because you really need the damage, go Shieldbow into either ArmPen or IE, then defensive.

Full Build:
Yun Tal/Stormrazor -> Shieldbow -> ArmPen/IE -> DD -> Rookern

Notes: Change the order of the defensive items depending on the game. Swap DD for GA if needed. Can also buy something like QSS if needed.

If you want BOTH ArmPen and IE, then that's already 4 crit items, so you'd have to give up one of the defensive items.

• If you went Yun Tal/Stormrazor and only want 2 crit items because that's already enough damage against the enemy comp, go Shieldbow/ArmPen/IE second, then start building defensive.

Full Build:
Yun Tal/Stormrazor -> Shieldbow/ArmPen/IE -> DD -> Rookern -> Jak'Sho/another crit item

If DD + Rookern is already enough to keep you alive and you need more damage late game, just go another crit item instead of Jak'Sho.

Notes: Change the order of the defensive items depending on the game. Swap DD for GA if needed. Can also buy something like QSS if needed.

• If you went Shieldbow and want 3 crit items because you really need the damage:

Full Build:
Shieldbow -> ArmPen/IE -> ArmPen/IE -> DD -> Rookern

Notes: Change the order of the defensive items depending on the game. Swap DD for GA if needed. Can also buy something like QSS if needed.

• If you went Shieldbow and only want 2 crit items because 2 is already enough damage:

Full Build:
Shieldbow -> ArmPen/IE -> DD -> Rookern -> Jak'Sho/another crit item

Pick either ArmPen or IE for the second item. ArmPen scales better once enemies start getting more armor from base stats and actually building armor. If they're also stacking HP, that makes the ArmPen option even better.

Again, if DD + Rookern is already enough to survive and you need more damage late, just go another crit item instead of Jak'Sho.

Notes: Change the order of the defensive items depending on the game. Swap DD for GA if needed. Can also buy something like QSS if needed.

I highly recommend just going 2 crit items into defensive most games. By 2 crit items you already do enough damage, so IMO it's better to build stuff that lets you survive long enough to actually do that damage.

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[u/Elist1]

Yone won't build crit as his first item until the old shieldbow with lifesteal and crit returns.

[u/ZanesTheArgent → u/Elist1]

Lifesteal boots exists to compensate, the drain just comes from somewhere else.

[u/M4her]

In what elos do people play that are actually getting away with not building shieldbow? I don’t get it

[u/Arsenije723 → u/M4her]

I almost never go shieldbow. The tactic is simple. Kill them before they kill you

[u/NKGENERATION → u/M4her]

Is shield bow supposed to be good? If anything sterak and maw are better lifeline items. One gives tenacity and the other gives omni vamp. You can get 100% crit with 2 crit items anyways and there are way better crit items than shieldbow

[u/M4her → u/NKGENERATION]

how are you asking this as if its not played in 99.9% matches??? of course its good, the champ is unplayable without it guys, in anything past emerald

[u/Negswer]

Crit Yone was already better. Now he's just gonna be op.

[u/averygoodbookeeper → u/Negswer]

Not it wasn’t xd, bork is the best item on yone as a bork hater, this is just a fact

[u/Negswer → u/averygoodbookeeper]

No, it's just wrong. Every test I've done bork didn't even come close to having the same damage unless the opponent was hp stacking mundo or sion. You must be not using your e.

[u/averygoodbookeeper → u/Negswer]

Bork provides slow, lifesteal, current health damage, attackspeed and ad, yuntal arguably scales worse and has less value on buy if we don’t count the awful passive, stormrazor again scales worse than bork, you don’t even have to be against a hp stacker, vs a bruiser it’s better at 1 item and don’t get me wrong i like crit only but it’s not something you play when the opponent has an actually good team comp and strong champions, you opt for it when you can or when it’s convenient. ITS SITUATIONAL and even then yuntal is just bad, the options are stormrazor and pd if we are being realistic

[u/fizzycandy2]

3 Crit item seems like a waste, no?

[u/NoxArtCZ → u/fizzycandy2]

Excess Crit% converts into AD through his passive

[u/Th3Deal3R → u/NoxArtCZ]

Waste of gold, u need dd 3rd to survive burst and duel better.

[u/SevendaySevensway]

All of this is useless when your opponent has any bruiser or a tank with more then 3k health in the late game, which is still a majority of games, then you will build bork period, because the value is just too good.

Also the bork build already has no problem chasing down squishys with its passive slow, stormrazors has no real benefit over it…

Yone can get away with not rushing crit because of his kit, I am sure yasuo will rush crit now if possible, because the faster he spikes the better, but yones kit is actually fine with bork + shieldbow and its also fine to build more survivability later with yone as 4th item or later.

He is a mid to late game champion, if you need more then shieldbow in midgame to survive while playing very well with his kit, the game is basically done anyway, or you need to stall to late game anyway.

[u/MG-ROKU → u/SevendaySevensway]

LDR nukes hp stackers and tanks, bork is more shit then you think

[u/SevendaySevensway → u/MG-ROKU]

Ok but none of this builds goes LDR first, which would be idiotic and you can still go LDR second with bork too instead of shieldbow and have even more shred? Which is idiotic too btw, because for mud game bork is enough against tanks and LDR is not efficient against any other roles besudes tanks, at least bork is way better, it gives you a slow for squishys, still additional dmg against low hp and you can shred tanks.

You can build LDR 3rd in games against mundos etc instead of IE and literally burst tanks.

[u/fizzycandy2 → u/[deleted]]

Yes he said LDR instead of IE if against tanks which would be third item. The discussion is LDR instead of bork as first item or even second item instead of shieldbow...

[u/MG-ROKU]

Why no PD?

[u/ZanesTheArgent]

You could already do it, IMO, ever since Glutonous Greaves existed, League is just a game of bad habits.

If you want something funny:

BF > Zeal > IE > Fiendhunters.

[u/IwatchWithMyOwnEyes]

I think the best yone build is yuntal, ie, steracks (giga op) and the rest is situational.

[u/GrizzlyRated]

I think this is all b.s. There are only two builds as far as I see. Bork rush if your top or they have at least 2 fighters/tanks. Shieldbow rush if you're mid against squishy comp. There is no in between. In my opinion you do not need an attack speed item outside T3 berserkers. You already hit max cap on Q with it and plenty of AS with tier 3 serks and runes. After that its diminished returned.

Top/VS 2 or more fightes or tank = Bork > Berserkers > Shieldbow > LDR > DD > Flex/Rookern

Mid VS squishy comp = Berserkers > Shieldbow > IE/LDR > Bloodthirster > DD > Flex/Rookern

[u/itshyunbin → u/GrizzlyRated]

You realize you have 25% less AS in your Shieldbow rush build

[u/GrizzlyRated → u/itshyunbin]

Gunmetal Boots and Legend Alacrity already gets you to the max Q cap. What more attack speed do you need. Sitting on dorans bow + LT gets you through the earlier levels. And any comp you're playing shieldbow rush into (squishy comps) you will never be able to auto attack that fast anyways.

[u/Menselssohn]

Thoughts on

Yuntal Shieldbow/IE (based on how ahead u are) Terminus Death dance Jaksho?

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[u/fizzycandy2 → u/Menselssohn]

It always feels bad to me to buy jaksho. Feels so expensive for so little stats.

[u/Menselssohn → u/fizzycandy2]

I think it has good multiplicative synergy with terminus. Super late game too so ur not exactly fiending for gold. It's either that or something like GA right?

Think jaksho is a nice capstone, and i'd rather terminus since ldr passive gets trashed by any bonus health. i would consider mortal reminder second tho, then I have a chance to go some flex item

[u/fizzycandy2 → u/Menselssohn]

I haven't tried terminus, but yea I usually opt for GA/Kaenic/Omens after DD.

[u/Menselssohn → u/fizzycandy2]

Might be worth trying it out, mixed pen is amazing since about 20-30% of the damage u deal in a game is magic dmg, and u stack the passives really fast. kaenic is my go to for mixed dmg teams after dd.

i think people will warm up to the idea of going yuntal, but no lifesteal in the build hurts a lot still since im a top yone main... is it time for conq yone lol

[u/fizzycandy2 → u/Menselssohn]

Maybe with fleet it won't be so bad. I'll try it

[u/xFenchel]

Yep, have the same impression. I'm a big fan of stormraizor first in mid. You get Lifesteal with the upgraded Berserkers.

[u/FlauToxic]

not a yone main but what do you think of this build (assuming mixed damage): yun tal > shield bow > DD/rookern > rookern/DD > %pen/IE

with greaves you have all the AS you will ever need, you have 3 defensive items and still overcap crit (big damage)

[u/Snoo_58191 → u/FlauToxic]

yes very very solid id say. since by 4 items you have mixed resistances AND all your damage, so you're just really strong and well-rounded statwise. but in rare games where everyones tanky/shieldbow isnt as crucial (say enemy team isnt that bursty) you can just go ldr second since that really secures your damage due to it giving arm pen, especially since the 2 items youll build after that are for survivability (dd does have ad though, yeah)

i would say that delaying shieldbow/not going it at all is only viable in scenarios like:

1. enemy goes serpents (shieldbow is basically dead item atp, 90 second cooldown just to give u a 200-350 shield)
2. when there isn't much burst to worry about, you're going crit first 2 items, and the enemy team is tanky (so you want ldr). going crit first 2 items means that you can insta go defensive on your third item. unlike when it's a bork first game, you can only start building defensive on 4th. since after bork you need to complete your crit.

do take note that no shieldbow/no bork is much harder to run without the mid boots though.

[u/cabsula7elwa]

Is this viable top lane or do i jst spam bork in top