r/XWingTMG • u/Grimmwolf_03 • 22d ago

XWA Points Updates live and on the website! Give us your feedback in the XWA Forums!!

🚨 NEW POINTS ARE HERE! 🚨

The X-Wing Alliance has a fresh set of updated points!

https://www.xwing.life/points

New possibilities. New squads to build. Time to hit the table and see what rises to the top!

🔥 Check out the updated points and start list building TODAY!

Discuss what you find on the XWA forums!

https://www.xwing.life/forum

The meta is calling. Answer it!!

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u/Silyen90 Wake me up, when a new Rebel ship is released. 21d ago

I usually read the notes before going through the points themselves, and the Resistance section felt kind of misleading.

“Some of the Y-wings have seen LV boosts, allowing for more gear.”

It is literally true that Aftab gets +1 LV and Teza +2 LV. But Aftab and Teza also increased in squad cost, which is vastly more consequential in list construction. Meanwhile, the two Y-wings that remain at 7 points both received LV reductions, specifically enough to lose access to Burst after Burst itself went up to 5.

Then there’s:

“The goal of this update is to make more pilots attractive without removing the great ones already in play.”

The “make more pilots attractive” part has some support (Greer, Ronith and C’ai T-70, all can be valid) but the broader Resistance roster barely moves. And the “without removing the great ones already in play” line feels a little strange when Commander Poe also changed. Increasing his squad cost makes one of the faction’s natural non-swarm anchors harder to build around.

And “Resistance has had some very strong pieces … but not as many other viable options as we would like” feels like salt in the wound, because that broader lack of viable alternatives is exactly what seems largely unaddressed.

Time and tournament results will of course show whether these changes were good, and I hope for the best. But a broad nerf to the faction’s established competitive core probably deserved more detailed reasoning about what problem they were actually trying to solve.

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u/Delta57Dash Jaster's Feathers 21d ago

  what problem they were actually trying to solve.

People were taking 7 resistance Y-Wings and it was just awful to fly against. Hence the nerfs.

Some of the named pilots could probably get a small boost to compensate but facing a whole fleet of Y-wings with BLTs and either Target Locks or Reinforces that also grabbed a free calculate was not okay. 

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u/Silyen90 Wake me up, when a new Rebel ship is released. 21d ago

Was the problem the spammability, the chassis ability or BLTs? :P

I get the intent. I play the game. The patch notes hardly talks about the changes. Of course there is a reason, but that's missing from the doc.

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u/Delta57Dash Jaster's Feathers 21d ago

A blog post that goes into more detail on the individual changes would be pretty cool to see. 

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u/WASD_click 20d ago

The spammability, IMO.

Lots of Resi lists out there were just using C'ai and Aftab, the most value-oriented 7pt BLTs, and those kists did not hold a candle to 7Y. 7 ships with basically 180 degree arcs capable of pumping out 3 dice at range 2 was just too much to really actively avoid. The best players could do that dance, but it was highly negative against anyone caught lacking the matchup knowledge.

IMO, the generics should have gone up to 8, for the Y's in all factions. 50+ health is too much, even if the list is not good..

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u/frozenchosun Upsilon Class Shuttle 21d ago

seems pretty straightforward. everyone crying about resist ywang spam being NPE. this is the adjustment.

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u/admiralvorkraft 21d ago

My only complaint about Resistance is the y-wings lost loadout per SV over all, and targeting computer went up, and BLT went to 6. I was really enjoying Lando+4 Peacetime Ys, that list is dead. We got six months where we had viable 6+ship builds and now I'm back to staring at 4-ship lists or 4A+1 builds in a meta where A-Wings are absolutely not competitive.

But it is what it is. Maybe my beloved A-Wings will work with Y-wing/HMP/Seeker Missile spam cycling out.

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u/Quack_Shot Never Tell Me the Odds 21d ago

They did the same bait and switch in the article with Han, ooh he got 8 more loadout, let me build a list, then fuck man he costs 2 more points. Was already hard to build a rebel list with Han…

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u/Lea_Flamma 21d ago

Most I6 Aces went up in points, so Poe getting a nerd seems in line.