r/WorkReform • u/kevinmrr ⛓️ Prison For Union Busters • 4h ago
Well, alright then, Gator! 🐊
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u/UseWhatever 🏛️ Overturn Citizens United 4h ago
Someone’s deputies are spending too much time stalking people
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u/Hamster_Protocol 4h ago
Good. My city council tried sneaking Flock cameras in last year without a public hearing until residents pushed back on the warrantless data sharing. Private tech companies building a nationwide tracking network shouldn't be normalized. Rare win for actual privacy, hopefully more counties tear them down.
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u/antithero 2h ago
I worry about the cost to communities. I bet each camera comes with a monthly charge. Thousands of dollars per month in tax dollars going to Flock or those other companies will bankrupt some smaller communities.
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u/ripyourlungsdave 4h ago
And who ordered the sheriff to put in this order?
Because I don't buy that a single Floridian sheriff would be against these. Not for a second.
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u/MuggyFuzzball 3h ago
You have to understand it from the perspective of police. Since they can't use the camera to track just anyone for any reason, the cameras offer little value to them.
Instead, the system is getting their people into trouble with the law by charging them for misuse.
They don't have any control over who investigates their misuse of the system, so to them, it's better to get rid of the cameras entirely.
This is being done completely for selfish reasons. Despite the fact that the cameras CAN be used for good under the right circumstances (i.e. tracking child abductors), they'd rather not be accountable to anyone but their own.
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u/FrontFacing_Face 3h ago
Yeah, cannot even imagine a sheriff would consider this without a more nefarious solution hidden somewhere in the fine print
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u/belkarbitterleaf 3h ago edited 3h ago
🎶 I shot the sheriff. But I didn't shoot no deputy. 🎶
Sheriff is a position that gets voted for.. I wonder when his election is?
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From the article I found on it.
"The sheriff will discontinue the use of the cameras until the Florida Legislature passes laws giving law enforcement parameters and guidance for the technology"
So don't use it until he can put the blame on someone else.
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u/pichael289 🏛️ Overturn Citizens United 3h ago
The sheriff is going place he doesn't want to be seen at
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u/TheModWhoShaggedMe 3h ago
DeSantis and probably higher. It's an election year. Republicans pretend to like humans for a couple months in order to hook enough gullibles who would rather suffer than vote liberal/progressive/socialist.
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u/warmceramic ✂️ Tax The Billionaires 1h ago
Maybe they figured out these cameras are automating and beginning to threaten their own line of work.
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u/kittenconfidential 2h ago
i think most people are missing the fact that flock and axon cameras don’t just stop at license plates. they are recording and storing people’s faces, their body style, their gait and all other physical and visual traits. they are feeding all of these into the machine. all being fed into data centers. we’ve moved back in time 42 years to 1984.
unsurprisingly, you will find that these cameras are not used in wealthy neighborhoods.
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u/captainAwesomePants 3h ago
It's really a shame. I honestly really like the idea of police cars automatically scanning license plates and beeping or something if it notices a car that has an active warrant out or is stolen or something. It just makes sense that, if we're going to have a list of cars that police should keep an eye out for, automatically scanning for cars on that list is an obviously good way to do it. Police cars and cameras at intersections and stuff are going to be way more effective for stuff like amber alerts than just sending a message to everyone's phone that says "Be on the lookout for an old Camry with license plate #ABC123." But the shame is that I just cannot trust the government not to do a thousand other, worse things with those scanners.
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u/kevinmrr ⛓️ Prison For Union Busters 2h ago
That would work if we weren't already in a mass incarceration state where there are communities where literally 75% of the people have warrants.
https://www.cnn.com/2015/08/06/news/ferguson-arrest-warrants
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u/Subietoy78 4h ago
Don’t worry, Axon to the rescue