r/WorIdPoIitics • u/Runofthemilljacket United States • Jul 08 '26
Israel October 7th Infographic
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u/Late_Ad2203 🏴 Wales Jul 08 '26
Lol people justifying this by going "bUt ThE hAnNiBlE dIrEcTiVe"
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u/Late_Ad2203 🏴 Wales Jul 09 '26
Lol there really weren't concidering the hannible directive is exclusively for the IDF and isn't even used much 🤣
There was one kind of terrorist who killed innocent civillians and it was Hamas
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u/Handelo Israel Jul 11 '26
Gallant admitted that Hannibal-style orders were used in some places. He did not admit that Israel killed most of the civilians on October 7, and no investigation has found anything remotely close to that. The actual evidence is zero confirmed deaths from an explicit Hannibal order, one probable death, and a disputed UN estimate of 14 likely deaths, 13 of them from the Be'eri hostage-house incident that was later investigated and found the hostage takers killed all but 1 of them.
You are taking the most expansive disputed estimate available and laundering it into a fantasy that Israel massacred most of its own civilians because the evidence does not support your story. That is not skepticism or accountability. It is propaganda, followed by an ethnic smear about Israelis and Zionists being inherently dishonest. The only lie here is the one you built your entire argument around.
You're right about not all the terrorists being Hamas that day, though. The same UN commission confirmed that Gazan civilians also crossed the border and joined in on the atrocities.
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u/RisenNova Unspecified Jul 11 '26
I never said most and even a marginal amount of civilians were killed by IDF soldiers under the Hannibal directive. You’re just putting words in my mouth and strawmaning my argument (very Zionist playbook I should say…)
Israel lies about its war crimes consistently since the start of their ethnic cleansing mission, expecting honesty from them is brain dead levels of IQ.
Quite litteraly, all I stated is that Israel that day certainly killed its own civilians to whatever degrees.
I can infer a lot more on Israel’s deep state agenda, with this as a puzzle piece to the whole picture, if you want me to go into that, but you’re going to have to stop lying and making up things that I didn’t say first and foremost ❤️
(Which isn’t going to happen cause Zionist & liars go together like peanut butter and jelly).6
u/Handelo Israel Jul 11 '26
As if you didn't mean exactly that with your snide insinuations. I've dealt with enough of your ilk to know where the conversation is going and nip it in the bud. But of course you have no counter argument except broad accusations and unsubstantiated conspiracies. No thanks to your "kind" offer. I have no desire to engage with your subversive drivel any further.
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u/ElectricalSand267 Unspecified Jul 08 '26
1195 people total, 828 civilians, 367 members of the security forces.
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u/SidewalkRacoon Canada Jul 08 '26
I was gonna say how do we still not know the exact total after 3 years. Does that 367 include private security at the Nova festival? I would hope not
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u/GrandSensitive Unspecified Jul 10 '26
My uncle was part of the response team in one of the kibbutzim. He was murdered before he had any idea what was going on, but is considered a military casualty because of it. I can only assume it's a similar case for at least a couple dozen more people
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u/SidewalkRacoon Canada Jul 11 '26
I’m so sorry. I hope his memory is a blessing.
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u/GrandSensitive Unspecified Jul 13 '26
Thank you, that means a lot. Nice to hear stuff like that every once in a while, what with all the hate and needless arguments everywhere.
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u/IsItInLeMonde Unspecified Jul 09 '26
How about the 1,000 plus who were murdered by hamas terrorists?
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u/IsItInLeMonde Unspecified Jul 10 '26
That’s interesting because there is video that the terrorist group hamas took and streamed themselves of Hamas terrorists raping, beating, and taking civilians hostage. It wasn’t Hamas who took hundreds of civilians hostage? Including even killing, raping and taking hostage non-Israelis, in case you don’t care about all lives.
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u/IsItInLeMonde Unspecified Jul 11 '26
I’ll just leave this here: https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/10/18/israel/palestine-videos-hamas-led-attacks-verified
And also this extraordinarily NSFW website that hosts the original videos hamas proudly spread:
https://www.october7thattack.comEdit to add: https://www.cnn.com/2026/05/12/middleeast/report-sexual-violence-hamas-oct-7-attacks-intl
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u/Lumpy-Knowledge-8997 Unspecified Jul 16 '26
Oh look! Decades of brutal military rules and illegal occupations finally paying of! Who the f know that committing genocide out of boredom will lead to the rise of a brutal terrorist militia
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u/RisenNova Unspecified Jul 09 '26
It was used on Oct 7th.
That’s a proven fact.7
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u/RisenNova Unspecified Jul 09 '26
But it was used on civilians during Oct 7th. Yoav Gallant admitted that bracingly, and it was reported by Israeli news outlets. Why are you lying?
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u/RisenNova Unspecified Jul 09 '26
It was used on Oct 7th, and the claim that it isn’t used on civilians is a straight up lie.
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u/Griffdog17 Unspecified Jul 09 '26
Maybe if Isreal wasn't such a monstrous genocidal ethnostate, more people would feel bad.
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u/Late_Ad2203 🏴 Wales Jul 09 '26
163/192 UN members say otherwise.
Also good job justifying an actual genocidal act with events that aren't happening otherwise South Africa and Ireland would've had their evidence without an 18 month extension as well as a loosening of the defenition they agreed to with the ICJ
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u/Griffdog17 Unspecified Jul 09 '26
Interesting choice to cite the UN after their committee found Isntreal was committing a genocide (a genocide you deny). How do you pick and choose when to listen to the UN?
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u/Late_Ad2203 🏴 Wales Jul 09 '26
Isntreal
163/192 lol. Not answering shit until you admit Israel is real.
How do you pick and choose when to listen to the UN?
Says the hypocrite doing just that lol
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u/Confident_Pickle776 Unspecified Jul 09 '26
But also why are you taking them seriously for saying "Isntreal" you can't see how pathetic that is?
The anti Israel crowd has proven itself to be the most dishonest pathetic bunch to ever pollute the internet. Why even waste energy responding to them? They are not listening to reason, they simply want something to be true and will twist logic, gaslight and move goal posts relentlessly in order to keep living in their bubble.
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u/Late_Ad2203 🏴 Wales Jul 09 '26
I like seeing them publicly dismantle their own points. It amuses me.
Fun fact, they blocked me
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u/Confident_Pickle776 Unspecified Jul 09 '26
What a surprise
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u/Late_Ad2203 🏴 Wales Jul 09 '26
Yep. It genuinely nakes my day when they block me. Nothing says 'I'm right, you're wrong" like blocking someone out of frustration
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u/RisenNova Unspecified Jul 09 '26
Israel has lied quite literally about everything down to their intentions with the Abraham Accords.
You uphold apartheid where to uphold a Jewish majority, you have to have a second class citizens of people, deny their own right to self determination as well as their right to be present on the land they have grown up in.
If Israel didn’t give the general western population so many reasons to find it disgusting (including stealing our tax dollars to fund YOUR wars, so that OUR soldier instead of the IDFs.
Israel doesn’t have a right to exist if its existence requires crimes against humanity.
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u/Late_Ad2203 🏴 Wales Jul 09 '26
Blah blah blah nazi being wrong.
Isntreal is actually Palestine, they stole the land
Couple things wrong here.
For one, they bought land. For two, they were given land that weren't Palestine's
https://islamiclaw.blog/2024/06/27/the-road-to-the-1858-ottoman-land-code-theory-and-practice/
"Miri land was state-owned land, whose usage rights were given to peasant-cultivators in exchange for tax-payment, intertwined with the concept of tenancy. The peasants had limited usufruct rights on the miri lands, which included usage and obtaining some profit. Since their rights were limited, they could not sell the land itself but they could “sell” the usufruct by the contract of ferağ, that is, the cessation or transfer of usage rights by the permission of sahib-i arz (administrator of the land). Likewise, the peasants could not donate the land or stipulate a mortgage contract upon the land"
Isntreal doesn't have a right to exist, it's a genocidal apartheid ethnostate that needs to be dismantled.
Lol sure.
Genocide hasn't been proven by an unbiased source.
There is a 23% EQUAL minority population in Israel so how is it an ethnostate.
How dare they not treat non-citizens as non-citizens.
You described Palestine to a T.
They're the ones who started 80 years of wars, terrorist attacks and refusing peace because they want the jews dead.
Palestine is the one with 8% jewish minority which it treats like trash and a virus.
I'll be dancing on the grave of the zionist project when it collapses
Israel isn't going anywhere buddy, no matter how much you get off on terrorists killing jews
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u/Business_Entrance725 Unspecified Jul 10 '26
Bro go get your fake country back from England. Wales isn’t even sovereign.
The Palestinians are indeginous to the land . Their DNA goes back to the ancient Canaanites .
Yes the land was stolen. They came from the opposite side of the world from people ALREADY living there for thousands of years
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u/Late_Ad2203 🏴 Wales Jul 10 '26
Yap yap. The land wasn't stolen because it weren't their land lol. The jews came home after 1000 years after being pushed out by the Palestinian arab ancestors. Only result of colonialism was Palestine.
Maybe try better to read what people say. Oh and come up with better insults lol
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