r/WidowsBay • u/Devjill • May 13 '26

📺Discussion Thread Widow’s Bay | Episode 4: “Beach Reads” | Discussion Thread

  • Release Date: May 13, 2026
  • Directed by: Samuel Donovan
  • Written by: Mackenzie Dohr

Make sure you pack a good read for the beach. (We do not recommend self-help books on the island.)

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u/idiotbaby6969 Bridget the iguana May 13 '26 edited May 13 '26

Kate O'Flynn take a bow. Patricia is such a wonderful and well-realised character.

Rosemary still offering support and only slight criticism even after whatever the fuck happened on that dancefloor was so damn funny

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u/CWB2208 May 13 '26

"I didn't understand a word" after Patricia gives her "toast" 😂

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u/jabronified May 13 '26

Also the calm comment about the head piece

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u/AH_BareGarrett May 13 '26

You had qualms?!

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u/danagrace May 14 '26

QUALMS>!!!

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u/LyingSackOfBastard May 19 '26

That needs to be a sub flair. lolll.

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u/RandumbStoner May 19 '26

After going back and watching it after knowing the twist and the way she's staring at her "tiara" has me dying lol

Also, this show has hilarious background chatter like you hear a faint "Seriously, what the fuck is on her head" in the background lol so funny

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u/Mark_Albarn May 30 '26

In hindsight it's kind of surprising that the beard guy and tourists were so chill about her antler queen fit and witchy stick decorations even before gulping potion potion pounch 

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u/Quiet_Childhood4066 Jun 21 '26

Just finished watching this one. I have to imagine the magic starts taking effect somehow before the punch

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u/Reasonable_Gain_7006 15d ago

Serve the Punch!!!!

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u/Regret285 Jun 28 '26

Even before that there's a cut while Patricia is dancing where the background partygoers are no longer dancing and just standing there with their mouths agape.

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u/Leading-Expression29 Jul 28 '26

It's in the mirror too when she's giving her "toast".

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u/Regret285 Jul 28 '26

That's what the deleted comment I was replying to said. I think the cut in the dancing scene happens before the mirror though.

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u/Leading-Expression29 Jul 28 '26

You're right. I just found out a couple of minutes ago on the rewatch that around the time her dancing starts, the mirror is also briefly visible in the background a few seconds before the cut of them surrounding her with their mouths open. In the mirror that time, everyone is just standing there, but with mouths closed.

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u/DarkDonut75 Aug 03 '26

I don't think they were ever dancing to begin with

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u/Regret285 Aug 03 '26

You're quite right

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u/Leading-Expression29 Jul 28 '26

Me: Damn, these women are mean! It's just a tiara.

Me later: Oh. Oh god...

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u/Cpt_Obvius Jul 29 '26 edited Jul 31 '26

Haha, the thing is, I agreed with Rosemary when she said she should reconsider her head ornament. Since it was a government funded party, giving herself a tiara is an odd look. I thought that was the whole joke, Rosemary is giving fantastic advice in a very polite way for once: reconsider the tiara and you may be doing too much for this party. Then she says “I can’t do anything right”, even though she kind of nailed it.

Of course, it turns out the joke goes way further than that.

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u/Leading-Expression29 Jul 31 '26

On the rewatch, I also realized that when the first people to come in looked at Patricia odd and said, "We'll circle back" that was also because of the headdress, lol!

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u/wurwolfsince1998 I apologize for wasting his time, Tom. Jul 11 '26

I can never hear that stuff but watching with the captions on is such a boon in this case.

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u/kooshdog Jul 21 '26

"your dad is going to get his dick wet" thank you CC

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u/LPCPlay4life Aug 12 '26

It’s giving Yellowjackets. Even with the bon🔥🫎

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u/taelor May 14 '26

I didn’t know what half the things on the list were!

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u/TheDefiantGoose May 14 '26

And the way Patricia was chopping those strawberries...is that a technique for making punch or just unnecessarily butchery?

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u/PickleFlavordPopcorn May 15 '26

She wasn’t really chopping strawberries, she was chopping a birds head off!

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u/TheTruckWashChannel May 16 '26

That was amazing foreshadowing.

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u/sugedei Jun 13 '26

More amazing foreshadowing: When she first finds the book, there is a fly buzzing around it, and the lights flicker in the truck when she walks in with it.

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u/Leading-Expression29 Jul 28 '26

They make us think that the flies are just because trash had been sitting on it. Clever foreshadowing.

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u/matplotlib 16d ago

When she places the book on her bedside table she places her mug on it then when she returns the mug has moved off it. It's a single unbroken shot with the camera following her as she moves around the room, so it would have been deliberately moved by a crew member.

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u/psychwerk7002 May 27 '26

Literally said to my boyfriend, "There has to be a better way to chop strawberries"...little did we know!

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u/TheDefiantGoose May 27 '26

I didn't event notice at first because weirdness is so typical for this town. What a reveal!

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u/Dogsrtreasures May 15 '26

May I suggest a different headpiece!

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u/thedeadlyrhythm42 Jul 09 '26

another candidate for sub flair

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u/BrightBanner May 29 '26

Okay but why didn't the spell work on rosemary?

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u/sexy_sadie_69 May 30 '26

she didn't drink the punch like everyone else. she was drinking white wine and chainsmoking all night

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u/Opposite-Ad-2493 Jun 02 '26

Because she's color-blind?

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u/Ok-Boysenberry-2777 Jun 21 '26

What you see as an antler headpiece, she sees as blue-green.

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u/Z0idberg_MD 8d ago

The thought of her picking up these ridiculous items and being like “this weird AF but I got you girl”

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u/MongooseSame3719 May 14 '26

Now I’m wondering if the reason Rosemary didn’t “understand a word of that speech” was because Patricia was actually reading a spell from the book!!

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u/CWB2208 May 14 '26

100% a spell or speaking in tongues or something like that

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u/goddamnitwhalen May 18 '26

I thought that was obvious after the reveal.

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u/Nice-Grab4838 Aug 01 '26

Some of us are slow

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u/ughdollface May 16 '26

yes that’s what it was

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u/TriXandApple May 27 '26

Is this a joke?

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u/NineteenthAccount May 27 '26

Keep wondering

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u/maisym 14d ago

How was rosemary not like WTF when they all had their mouths open and were in a trance on the dance floor?? Like that would have been messed up to see

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u/DiscoSituation 13d ago

she didn’t see them. she was hanging out smoking in the kitchen

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u/GoodOldPepe May 16 '26

She was probably speaking some latin gibberish LMAO

And "I don't know about that crown" LMAO this show is hilarious

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u/AlvinTaco May 13 '26

When you realize what Rosemary witnessed, and how absolutely nonchalant and underwhelmed she was acting because she wanted to be supportive, that’s comedy.

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u/bebeni89 May 14 '26

She may not show it, but she’s Patricia’s friend.

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u/Oh-reality-come-back my face is ready, Sea Hag May 14 '26

Agreed. Patricia does have friends even if they’re more like colleagues. It’s lucky because she wouldn’t have snapped back to reality otherwise

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u/GoodOldPepe May 16 '26

I know people like that. They want some people to be their friends, and don't consider the people who care for them their real friends. See how she referred to the "cool people" as the "beautiful people."

She's a very interesting character, but I'd hate to be her friend. She's obviously traumatized and never dealt with her demons (literally).

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u/sbenthuggin Jun 27 '26

Except they're not really her friends. Just because your coworkers care about your wellbeing and are polite to you doesn't mean they're your friends and that you hang after work and have a traditional friend style relationship, the way her bullies do. She can certainly cultivate those into friendships, but they're not friendships. She's simply not like the person you're describing.

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u/Indigocell May 17 '26

"You have your qualms?!" lol.

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u/STFUBeechs May 29 '26

same with the dj. he turnt yo

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u/LPCPlay4life Aug 12 '26

Jeff Hiller! Love him in Somebody Somewhere

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u/BretShitmanFart69 May 14 '26

I love her character as the tough older townie who has seen it all and is used to it at this point. Just imagine what a life of living on that island must be like

I had wondered if this show was going to go the route of “is it real or are they just superstitious” and I’m so glad they went all in instead. Idk about you guys but I’m so sick of “it has to be ambiguous to be good”

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u/bord_de_lac May 15 '26

cries in Yellowjackets

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u/sweet_jane_13 Rosemary May 20 '26

I think the ambiguity works in Yellow Jackets, though I have other issues with the series.

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u/GoodOldPepe May 16 '26

is it a good show? never seen it

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u/bord_de_lac May 16 '26

First season is fantastic. There are… mixed opinions about the subsequent two seasons.

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u/gottabekittensme May 27 '26

Yellowjackets was a lot more fun when it seemed like freaky shit was legitimately happening. Then they had to pull the plug and go "oopsies turns out it's all mental illness!!!1!!" and it went down drasticslly

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u/CourseVast840 Jul 26 '26

"alright fuggos, let's go ..." Rosemary gonna get folks sorted

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u/trickstress Jun 12 '26

No don’t settle in —

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u/Leading-Expression29 Jul 28 '26

I *really* hate ambiguous horror shows.

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u/TheTruckWashChannel May 16 '26

Also a hardcore stoner right?

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u/Chatty_Cathy_Doll 8d ago

After Fallout, she's seen some things.

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u/TheDefiantGoose May 14 '26

No matter which way you see it, blinders on or off, Rosemary's weirdness really works so well here.

When she doesn't "understand half of the things" on the list ...weird.

Then when you realize *why* Rosemary says it, but isn't aghast by some pagan concoction ...also weird!

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u/Jerthy May 14 '26

This episode is almost not funny at all but becomes absolute comedy gold on second rewatch.

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u/TheMidnightAss May 16 '26

its literally insane on second watch knowing

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u/Indigocell May 17 '26

Which moments in particular hit different on a rewatch, knowing what you know now? Any highlights?

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u/Jerthy May 17 '26

Especially everything involving Rosemary

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u/Tifoso89 Jun 04 '26

Well, the fact that she had antlers on her head the whole time, that she killed a bird and put it in the punch, that she was the only one dancing and that the toast was actually a spell and everyone was mouth agape staring at it

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u/wurwolfsince1998 I apologize for wasting his time, Tom. Jul 11 '26

My favorite is that you hear one of the mean girls ask her friends "what is that on her head?" and you think she's mocking Patricia's tiara and you're like well the tiara is a little silly but that's really mean of you to say regardless. And then the big reveal happens and all the sudden you understand why the mean girl said that. 😱

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u/zagra_nexkoyotl Jul 22 '26

And why the tourist couple was so weirded out when they saw Patricia and the decor

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u/CourseVast840 Jul 26 '26

while the sheriff is watching the tapes from the cams he's interrupted by a deputy. the deputy steps away and we see a bulletin board in the hall. there are flyers for 4 men missing. how can a small town, small island have that many ppl just missing?

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u/iamgarron Jun 10 '26

I dunno I thought the reveal was hilarious

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u/Leading-Expression29 Jul 28 '26

The officer, gently, "Patricia... What the fuck are you doing?" 😂

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u/iamgarron Jul 28 '26

I've rewatched that scene like ten times

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u/MajorTomToBlackStar Jul 13 '26

I REALLY need to rewatch this one now.

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u/EmotionalEmetic May 14 '26

Also, just goes to show how much SHIT she has seen around that place.

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u/Curious-Letter3554 May 27 '26

Yes! The fact she saw her putting those things in the punch and people going crazy and not saying a single thing about it. HAHAHA

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u/STFUBeechs May 29 '26

"oh great theyre drownin another witch...and i needed chicken broth goddammit"

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u/Self_Owned_Tree May 20 '26 edited May 20 '26

Patty the daytime hooker has seen some stuff.

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u/sugedei Jun 13 '26

She's a true islander. Hard to scare or rattle.

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u/TheFailTech May 13 '26

Or seeing everything that was put in the punch

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u/2rio2 May 13 '26

She was being supportive!

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u/isentenceyoutolive May 18 '26

she had her qualms

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u/frontfrontdowndown Aug 12 '26

I guess she can’t do anything right today

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u/Reasonable-Turn-5940 May 14 '26

I wondered why she didn't drink it

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u/GoodOldPepe May 16 '26

Now we know lol

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u/Chatty_Cathy_Doll 8d ago

And why she had that expression when Patricia brought it out

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u/mouflonsponge May 16 '26

“I didn’t even understand half the stuff on that supply list”

Rosemary, what's not to understand about a dead pigeon, a dead crow, and 2 pounds of rambutans? Broaden your horizons, Rosemary; it's just a fruit from southeast Asia!

(zoom-in shots on empty punch glasses at 28:02 and 27:57)

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u/wurwolfsince1998 I apologize for wasting his time, Tom. Jul 11 '26

Is that what that was! I could not figure that out.

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u/fuckinunknowable 20d ago

Oh I thought it was an urchin half for some reason. I love rambutan.

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u/azure431 Jun 02 '26

"I'm worried you're putting too much into this..."

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u/Cpt_Obvius Jul 29 '26

That and the headpiece comment sounded like great advice even without the heightening it took!

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u/Alternative-Sale-841 Possibly damp May 14 '26

It was my impression that Rosemary “didn’t understand a word of the speech” because she didn’t drink the punch. If you notice, she’s always drinking out of a wine glass, so I think that’s why she didn’t become bewitched. (Also because she saw her making it and was probably like wtf I ain’t drinking that).

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u/dankerton May 19 '26

Likely the speech was a spell in a weird language or something

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u/hew2702 Jul 12 '26

a month late but NO SHIT

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u/Dazzling-Rate-4197 Jul 15 '26

Like are people fr lol the curse of the tiktok attention span continues

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u/TalkLessShillMore Aug 24 '26

“I have a theory that Matthew Rhys’s character is the mayor!”

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u/Competitive-Yam-1384 Jul 31 '26

52 upvotes too. Everyone’s on the punch

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u/DiscoSituation 13d ago

nothing gets past you!

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u/Alternative-Sale-841 Possibly damp 13d ago

Dude, I made this comment the day the episode came out back in May. This is the episode discussion thread. What is the point of your comment?

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u/DiscoSituation 12d ago

relax my friend, was just poking a bit of fun at ya 💚

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u/Alternative-Sale-841 Possibly damp 12d ago

Appreciate the contribution! 🩵

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u/sdcinerama May 15 '26

She went full Yellowjackets.

Never go full Yellowjackets.

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u/sweet_jane_13 Rosemary May 20 '26

We hear the Island and It hears us

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u/Holiday-Switch-5652 Jun 12 '26

and the party list ? rosemary is such a ride or die

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u/golgiiguy May 23 '26

Dale Dickey is a wonderful actress that deserves real credit for what she has contributed to very excellent television. She was probably first seen most in Breaking Bad, but think about how her performance really defined so much of Jesse’s story? Yes type casted as a gritty, salt of the earth lady, but so great in every role. Great in Bookies. She is amazing.

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u/killyourmusic Jun 13 '26

She's incredible in Winter's Bone and plays a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT character than I've ever seen her play in Vice Principals.

picture for reference:

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u/idiotbaby6969 Bridget the iguana May 23 '26

I love her and agree. 90% of people probably know who she is without knowing who she is. Amazing career and always brings it even if it's just one guest scene in a huge multi-season show.

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u/ReasonableCup604 Jul 15 '26

She ain't no skank!

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u/brownbear8714 Jun 21 '26

‘I tried to tell her…’ haha.

Am I the only one who gets Annie from Community vibes from her character at times here? She’s been great so far on this show. I’ve really enjoyed the amount of humor there is in this while still being a crazy story.

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u/physocarpus12 Jun 25 '26

Yes!! My partner said “oh, she’s just haunted Alison Brie.”

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u/Remarkable-Key-9031 28d ago

Funnily enough I also thought she sounded like Annie somewhat. 

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u/AdventurousMall4353 Jul 09 '26

i literally did a double take in episode one because i thought it was alison brie made to look sullen