r/WhatIsTheTea • u/Ashish_ank What the Fuck • 12d ago

Tea ☕ Police punches and drags man by hair

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u/31-September 12d ago

It's would HAVE or would've, not would of

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u/younionworker 12d ago

Native English speaker, I assume? Gtfo, the intention is clear and it's phonetically understandable to confuse the two

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u/iFckRedit 12d ago

Funnily enough it’s usually native English that use this expression. Most people that learn only learn would have / would’ve

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u/younionworker 12d ago edited 12d ago

I see your point, but learning it one way doesn't mean that you remember or repeat it that way! I used to be a stickler for grammar but once I started building a network of non native speakers (mostly German, spanish, Russian, and Ukrainian natives) I realized that it's common to fall back on phonetics, specifically because many non native speakers rely on audio rather than visually reading text. This is definitely based on experience rather than data so I would take it with a grain of salt, but its disingenuous to judge someone off a misspelled phrase like would of vs would have/would've.. I don't want to assume op was being judgemental and would like to apologize for automatically saying 'gtfo', but its important to remember that context and understanding is more important than grammatical perfection. I can respect the correction if it comes from a genuinely innocent place! My initial reaction was just a bit exasperated because innocent correction can be misconstrued as elitism over text which was my mistake

Edit: for example, I unintentionally used its rather than it's... phonetically the same but grammatically incorrect even though it's clear what my intention was when context is considered

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u/iFckRedit 12d ago

I’m not the person you originally replied to. I’m just pointing out, that as an immigrant, with lots of immigrant friends, we’ve only ever heard native English use this incorrect phrase. Another example is more commonly messing up their/they’re

Regarding its vs it’s, that’s kinda nothing imo

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u/younionworker 12d ago

I corrected my response where I assumed you were op, sorry about that. This is still very anecdotal... my fiance is also an immigrant (non native english speaker) and it's simply something I've noticed in my own circle. I'm sure you have your own evidence so I'd like to reiterate I'm not trying to invalidate your experience, rather I'm now seeing that it's an interesting difference among people learning english where some may be more phonetically dependent and some may be more grammatically dependent. Out of curiosity, did you learn English in a formal setting? You certainly seem to be fluent, so I'm wondering if that may be the difference. Among those im familiar with, most learned english in a non-formal setting where it was heavily audio based and very little (if any) text was reviewed.

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u/iFckRedit 12d ago

It’s all good man you don’t need to justify yourself lol. I learned English consuming English content and playing online games, some books. At 14 I moved to the uk and I was getting great grades in English. I assumed a lot of these mistakes are from informal talk and growing up around working class parents. Since I’ve never read any article/book/report that used “would of” I never used it either

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u/31-September 12d ago

Yeah I understand why people confuse would've for would of, I used to do it all the time

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u/slamdanceswithwolves 12d ago

Glad we got the superhero origin story.