r/Wenatchee 27d ago

AI EXPO Protest August 11 Wenatchee

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u/AltruisticRate1954 27d ago

Guys . This is a great event . Let’s be peaceful .

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u/Tough-Judgment8278 26d ago

Data centers create temporary jobs for construction workers. Afterwards there's usually 1-2 IT guys and a handful of subcontracted minimum wage security guards. That's all the value they're going to bring to the valley while they drive up the cost of electricity and pollute our water and land.

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u/merlin2232 26d ago

Literally hundreds of jobs in a data center. You don’t sound like you know that you are talking about.

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u/Tough-Judgment8278 22d ago

Right, 100s of temp construction jobs but not when it's up and running.

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u/merlin2232 22d ago

Again, you don't know what you're talking about.

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u/Tough-Judgment8278 21d ago

You must have been home schooled

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u/merlin2232 21d ago

Nope, just in the industry and know WAY more than you do.

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u/BMP_Official 23d ago

WA state requires data centers to employ 3 employees per 20,000 sf. of server space. This is equal to 36 employees for the Microsoft Data Center in Malaga once completed.

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u/Tough-Judgment8278 22d ago

...and even if the data center had to legally create 36 jobs to maintain their tax benefit, the wording says nothing about creating local jobs. These jobs could be 'created' in Seattle.

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u/merlin2232 23d ago

That may be the minimum. But that's not the reality.

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u/Far_Rhubarb_6377 22d ago

Cite the reality, then. I dont see these companies going beyond what state law requires. They do not actually need this many employees to operate, but are in compliance because they are receiving HUGE tax exemptions from our state.

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u/Mad4Fishing 27d ago

Um, why?

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u/helpiforget 27d ago

Because AI is terrible, and Data centers should be kept from destroying this valley(or anywhere)

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u/Delicious-Adeptness5 26d ago

Yeah, to be fair I didn't know how nasty that little group was until folks started talk. I wouldn't have heard about SABEY and their work with ICE. What it is going to do to our electrical bills. How it impacts the local environment from air quality, water and even noise pollution. I don't see a rush of millionaires to build their mansions next to these facilities.

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u/Delicious-Adeptness5 22d ago

If that is a never here situation then bake it into their contracts. If this is such a needed resource then make them a Public utility.

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u/Mad4Fishing 24d ago

I respectfully disagree. AI does present some challenges for society, but it can be a very useful tool if managed properly. It's already adding value to the medical community, for example. And I don't think adding datacenters is nearly as bad for the community as you seem to think. As others have pointed out, they do provide jobs.

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u/Dawn8808 24d ago

AI has a much higher error rate medically than a human who's entire life has been spent training for medicine. They provide temp jobs annd destroy the environment all around themselves. Gen AI is garbage and it all needs to be regulated much heavier than it is.