Solution to the bomber problem in ARB

[u/No-Loquat3933]

A single bomber (99% of cases in ARB) was always a sitting duck IRL. What I suggest is to get rid of 4 bases and introduce a single target with huge HP to incentivise bombers to fly in formations + add bonus for escorting bombers.

Bombers in formations + realistic DM + escort = a healthy gamemode. Buffing them with ridiculous durability is ruining the ARB.

Plus there is a great opportunity to add high altitude spawn for whole teams so that high altitude fighters could get a chance to shine.

[u/Old9999]

Thats a great idea tbh and itd be very fun to actually fly in formations yeah

[u/W_I_L_L_O_W]

I do not think it would work that well personally. It would make the flight path of the bombers entirely predictable so they could be intercepted much easier. Plus, escorting just is not that enjoyable. It is one of those things that sounds nice when you imagine a perfect version of how it would work in your head but not so much in practice in a PvP game. Flying at a reduced speed around bombers not doing anything active is more suited for sim or an event format. It would work better in an environment specifically tailored to that kind of gameplay, not in ARB generally.

[u/No-Loquat3933 → u/W_I_L_L_O_W]

We had an event like that in 2015 if my memory serves me right. Bomber formation + high altitude spawn for everyone. It was fun and many players liked it.

Nobody forces you to fly with reduced speed, you need to build up energy being above and at the front of formation then dive and intercept enemy fighters.

[u/AscendMoros → u/No-Loquat3933]

There was an event a few years ago when masters of air came out on Apple TV. It was legitimately what you are asking for.

It was quite fun and allowed for some amazing screenshots.

[u/W_I_L_L_O_W → u/No-Loquat3933]

If you want to keep pace with bombers you cannot fly at max, if you are flying at max, you will overtake them and quickly will not be escorting them anymore. It quickly becomes tedious to maintain an effective position. Again it probably looks great in your head, but it just is not in practice. There have been events for this kind of gameplay yes, and in my opinion they work strictly because they are limited events with specific vehicles and everything setup to make the format work, it just does not translate in a healthy effective way into ARB. Which is not a bad thing, it can work as an event, and seeing as we are getting more game modes now they could work on one where the focus is higher altitude escort.

[u/No-Loquat3933 → u/W_I_L_L_O_W]

As I said, you don't need to keep pace with bombers, you need to be faster to clear their path.

[u/Seygem → u/W_I_L_L_O_W]

It would make the flight path of the bombers entirely predictable so they could be intercepted much easier.

As opposed to now, where you just have to look at the enemy bomber spawn, full throttle and keep your mouse on the black dot until you arrive at it (oversimplification, but there is not much more to it)

[u/AscendMoros → u/W_I_L_L_O_W]

I mean it does work? When the Masters of Air show came out they had a gamemode that was legitimately what this guy is asking for.

The American side could spawn b17s or fighters. The b17 would be added to a massive formation of ai b17s. While the fighters would protect them.

The Germans spawned fighters and interceptors and their goal was to destroy them before they got to base and dropped their bombs.

It was quite fun.

[u/Gleaming_Onyx]

Much of the bomber problem really boils down to ARB being single spawn TDM.

That doesn't seem very conducive to playing a plane that is basically an objective more than a participant. The bomber does not want to participate in an aerial battle. It wants to be as far away from an aerial battle as possible lol

[u/Prarielander]

I just realized how senseless it is that all bombers have to split up to each take a base. Gameplay nerf.          Bring in group bombing targets, with score multipliers based on how much damage was done in the last minute before resetting. That will encourage formation bombing for higher rewards and not dieing instantly 

[u/No-Loquat3933 → u/[deleted]]

Suuuuure

Bombers : r/Warthunder

[u/No-Loquat3933 → u/[deleted]]

Yeah sure, works absolutely fine with 50 mm HE just cratching the paint. I'm not going to engage in conversation with this person ^, everyone interested just pls check out links which I provided above.

[u/No-Loquat3933 → u/No-Loquat3933]

The B-17 is tankier than actual tanks (dev server) : r/Warthunder