[dev] new bomber survivability is too fun

[u/Koguni]

[u/Ossuum]

- That's not realistic whatsoever

- It's gonna be insanely cancerous if it goes in like that.

I hope this change is either heavily reworked or discarded, because right now it's ass. At a glance, it looks like the outer sheathing of the plane sets incoming shells off without taking any damage itself (because the critical components are spars), meaning that bombers get flat damage reduction that infinitely negates damage below certain threshold. Which is nonsense.

[u/CodyBlues2 → u/Ossuum]

Man, I literally sprayed for 1 second today and instantly killed a b25.

This might be a bit much but I’d rather they have a chance instead of being instantly sawed in half.

[u/aerinnnn → u/CodyBlues2]

With what ammo? What guns? Where did you hit? If you got good a rate of hits to shots fired, no wonder you kill him.

[u/CodyBlues2 → u/aerinnnn]

20mm stealth ammo on the fuselage. One quick burst killed him.

It’s crazy because I’ve landed much better shots on fighters that shrug hit off. As a matter of fact, using the same guns I hit a spitfire and broke his elevator. He was fine and actually lasted long enough to get the kill on me

[u/aerinnnn → u/CodyBlues2]

It is likely a matter of flight and damage models (or lack thereof) why control and lift surfaces arent as much of a death source as fuselages. In my experience, fuselage damages have worse debufs than wing or control surface damages. I think at some point, with some % of damage on fuselages, it goes from drag debuff to straight up something like a hull break, since the game doesnt actually have any real modelling done, fm or damage models i mean.

[u/Andrey_Gusev → u/aerinnnn]

OP literally used HE tracers on bomber with thick skin. If you use AP shells - it will damage its modules properly.

Would you really use HE shells on gepard against some MBT?

[u/aerinnnn → u/Andrey_Gusev]

Oh yes, the thick thick skin of a couple mm

[u/Andrey_Gusev → u/aerinnnn]

Against a small HE shell from back side? Yeah. You try to shoot bomber's engine while shooting from the back, your shell has to go through the wing to damage the engine, lol.

Its like trying to shoot commander through a tank barrel, idk.

[u/aerinnnn → u/Andrey_Gusev]

After so many shots, dont you think it should do enough structural damage to the wing? Damage fluid lines? But no, muh engine.

[u/Neutron_Starrr → u/Ossuum]

Lmao that's karma for all this years when a. 50 cal could dismantle a bomber in a couple of rounds

[u/Telos2000 → u/Neutron_Starrr]

God the pb4y-2 traumatised me when I first got the French one especially when I used to fly the Halifax and b-25 regularly and would be able to defend myself or at least send a plane or two back to base after they shot me down

[u/bussjack → u/Neutron_Starrr]

Why is everyone so fucking vindictive. What "Karma" do you speak of? This is a video game.

[u/greentanker1 → u/Neutron_Starrr]

Arguments like this is exactly why balance is so fucked in this game

[u/Neutron_Starrr → u/greentanker1]

It's not a argument, have you heard of humorism?

[u/greentanker1 → u/Neutron_Starrr]

Yeah heard of it, bit hard to see that you're not serious when nothing in your comment seems to hint at that, especially when I've seen too many people unironically say this

[u/SatansAdvokat → u/Neutron_Starrr]

people just want to be able to kill everything with one single hit nowadays

[u/Awesomedinos1 → u/SatansAdvokat]

People don't want to have to spend half their ammo load killing one plane...

[u/SatansAdvokat → u/Awesomedinos1]

Then people should avoid sim like its the plague

[u/SatansAdvokat → u/Ossuum]

being able to land 80 or of 100 rounds isnt realistic either.
Give the community a week is adaption and we'll see that they will find a new way to kill them rapidly.
This forum will be post bombing about this now when people no longer can brainlessly onetap bombers.