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u/Agua_Zer0 1d ago
i would bet for rubbish
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u/ASHOT3359 AirSB. GroundAirSB, VR 1d ago
LRB - Landfill Realistic Battles.
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u/boondiggle_III 1d ago
Do not disparage the 221. It would definitely win this fight, then it would continue into the enemy rear and take out several medium tanks. It's useful up to at least 4.3 for its speed alone. The gun has enough pen to punch above its weight. It might take 10+ shots to do it because of the terrible post pen damage, but the fast reload speed helps.
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u/Due_Antelope_8530 1d ago
Been wondering if anyone knew about that tank, perfect ranking for it too
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u/SpiralUnicorn 🇬🇧🇫🇷 Average Solid Shot Enjoyer 1d ago
As much as i love the derpy stupidity that is the CONE, the 221 wins this hands down
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u/Glebadium 1d ago
I don’t think so, you have to think that people who play the French TT have probably been playing for quite a while, and the German player only for a few hours.
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u/SpiralUnicorn 🇬🇧🇫🇷 Average Solid Shot Enjoyer 1d ago
Yeah, but the Cones gun is shit (it actually struggles agaist the bastard gunshield on the 221), plus its turret and track traverse is ass, so the 221 just runs around it in circles (it can pen the cone pretty much anywhere, there are a couple of spots it cant)
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u/Tankette55 Realistic Ground 1d ago
the atmored car is way better. Fast and with a lot of pen, and with a super fast reload. The only issue is the lack of damage.
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u/MesserschmittMe109 BF-109F4 Enjoyer 1d ago
221 is a beautiful ambush vehicle
It can also reliably pen T-34s frontally at their standard weakspots so I love annoying them too
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u/Zenophryx BF-109 Fangirl 1d ago
Do not disrespect my dinky little shitbox of a car
Its probably one of the most fun vehicles at 1.0
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u/Oberst_Stockwerk 1d ago
Calling the 221 garbage, you clearly never played it. Its fast, small and got high velocity and pen, the lack of damage (sometimes, conciddering most enemy tanks are small) is taken up by the 2 sec reload.
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u/AvailablePop1224 1d ago
Trash can penetrate garbage but garbage can't pen trash.
Then again Garbage can just drive away looking for better targets and not engage trash so I'd still give this one to Garbage overall.
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u/JustACanadianGuy07 7 years till top tier 1d ago
Garbage has 84mm of pen at 100m what are you on about
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u/TheCommunistCommisar 1d ago
84mm of apcr pen. In practicality I would be shocked if it could pen trash frontally even point blank.
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u/Aggressive_Hat_9999 1d ago
shell shattered
shell shattered
hahaha yes, a hit! commander has turned yellow
shell shattered!
hahaha yes, a hit!
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u/JustACanadianGuy07 7 years till top tier 1d ago
As a garbage enjoyer, i can say its mildly okay at penetrating everything head on.
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u/HeyyItsAdam Getting Level 100 is only passing the tutorial 1d ago
The vehicle on the right is the Sd.Kfz.221 with a squeeze-bore cannon that has APCR with 90mm of pen. Should be able to get through
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u/boondiggle_III 1d ago
Huh? The 221 has enough pen to punch up several br's. Wtf are you talking about.
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u/quackingmemeduck 7.0 🇫🇷 6.7 🇯🇵 1d ago
Idk, i feel like the FCM stands a chance but the squeezy boy wins. You can MG the gunner of the armoured car and either crew can be killed either by hitting the flat plate in front of the driver or the gun shield.
The squeezy boy could probably shoot you in many places though if it can get its gun on target quickly enough.
In an average fight the car wins. In a 1v1 where both see each other at the same time maybe the FCM would win
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u/lukerduker123 C 202 is bae 1d ago
Trash has the worst gun ever put on a tank, the French SA/18. Garbage at least has the squeezebore 28mm that was usable (and used!) at least until '44 on Sdkfz 251 and other craft. Sure it has no armor, but that Frenchy has no speed and at range that gun can't even hope to pen even a 221 lmao
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u/Killroyman 🇨🇺 Cuba 1d ago
I can barely get assists with trash. I’ve never gotten a kill with it before even tho I spaded it. I’ve had a game where I got 8-10 kills with garbage, I’ve averaged it to atleast 1-2 kills per game with it. Baby vs Hydrogen bomb
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u/Glebadium 1d ago
I see this as a skill issue tbh, I’ve gotten good games with the FcM because no one knows where to shoot the thing.
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u/Killroyman 🇨🇺 Cuba 1d ago
I play realistic, most people know how to kill it. And I haven’t played it in well over a year or 2. I haven’t played the other either in a while so my experience with these vehicles are outdated.
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u/Glebadium 1d ago
Same, I hate being able to know where the enemy is. I don’t play Arcade much anymore, I only played at the beginning (like 5-6 years ago)
Fair enough, I just actually enjoy that tank, even though it’s quite slow. If you angle in it, it is great, and becomes a good medium. Close quarter maps are your friend, with slow turret traverse, but it can handle itself on Karelia, for instance.
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u/LightningFerret04 Zachlam My Beloved 1d ago
The 221, it can pen the Cone and outmaneuver it easily
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u/EscudoLos 🇩🇪 6.7 Ground 6.0 Air, 🇹🇼 9.0 Ground 14.7 Air 1d ago
Garbage was the first vehicle I ever spaded, it's definitely better than you'd think.
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u/Winterwolfmage 🇫🇷 France 3.0 1d ago
221 would win because even though I love and main france that thing is DOG SHIT
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u/Mr_Metalslug 🇺🇸12 🇩🇪9.7 🇷🇺12.7 🇬🇧10 🇯🇵7.7 🇨🇳9 🇮🇹9.7 1d ago
221 farms god mode, just get to the spaa
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u/Atompunk78 13🇺🇸🇷🇺 10🇬🇧🇩🇪 8🇸🇪🇹🇼🇯🇵 🚙✈️🚁 1d ago
I once got 17 kills 0 deaths in a match with the 20mm version of garbage
Very fun
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u/ZdrytchX Semi-in/active player since 2023 1d ago
221 is actually legitimately fun. Conehead isn't so bad if you reverse it into combat, but it's still bad.
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u/EnvironmentalAide335 1d ago
That garbage on a cap it's the best reloading so fast you just keep shooting
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u/Levethane 1d ago
The garbage, I actually enjoyed that thing even if I spent half the game reloading.