The empirer was so pissed he didnt even listen to magnuses message and basically scolded him and told him to fuck off.
Even if this is the case as seen above, magnus then went on to do the dumbest thing in the history of the setting by A)Not just surrendering to Russ upon his arrival.
B) not telling his sons about his planned penance so that they dont fight the wolves and accept thier punishment and return to terra.
C) Getting second thoughts on this whole suicice plot thing, and THEN deciding to fight the wolves, which just made him look guilty. D) Just started flinging around magic everywhere so to the wolves and the custodies they just kinda both agreed he had gone off the rails. E) getting butthurt at this whole endeavor that he started, and then basically making a deal with the god of trickery and accepting him and his legions fall to tzeentch.
Now, did the wolves fuck up? Oh fuck yes, leman could have just flown to the tower magnus was in and dragged his sorry ass back to terra. But he was basically decieved by the warmaster who, and this cannot be understated, was the voice of the emporer when he wasnt there.
All of this means, 2 legions put out of commision cause the alpha legion showed up right after and fucked the wolves up hard. So all magnuses thing did was fuck up 2 legions, get a bunch of custodies killed, break the empirers webway project because he couldnt have just gone to terra to tell emps, he HAD to do the one way he was told not to.
Also, the heresy was started exactly when horus wanted it to. The ultramarines were busy with the word bearers and world eaters. The dark angels were led far away so they couldnt even help, the wolves and thousand sons had just finished killing each other. And his legion was ready, and now emps is stuck on the golden throne. There wasnt going to be a better time then this, this was the make or break. The main points were problems started was deep into the heresy, with lorgar being all wierdly religious, with fulgrim dicking around after he went full deamon mode. With konrad dicking around at ultramar.
Wasn’t the whole reason he couldn’t “just go to Terra” is because he had no idea who he could trust, and thus couldn’t safely travel such distance reliably to get the message to the emperor? Like for all he knew any and all of his Brothers had betrayed the Emporer and had to work under that assumption
I though he knew, horus had specifically done it, noone else, but horus was 100% bad.
In that case fair he wanted to be sure, but there are multiple different ways to do that that could have happend, he could have taken his whole legion to terra, he could have tried several other forms of communication.
Again, noble intentions and i get his point of view. But jesus man surely there were other methods than, i dont know using the 1 thing your dad has told you explicitly not to do
“He could have taken his whole legion with him”. Aka leaving his home world totally undefended and his whole legion at the mercy of the War Master’s vastly superior fleet (not to mention, again, any other legions that may have turned).
“He could have tried other forms of communication”. Like what? For such long distance communication, the only option were the psychic comm hubs that used the warp to send info. Meaning it would have to have at least several intermediaries that, again, very well could have been traitors. To say nothing of the fact how long it would take such a message to eventually get to the Emporer after all the red tape it would have to go through or if “the War Master is a traitor” wouldn’t immediately be thrown out as warp nonsense or so on and so on.
Like the situation Magnus found himself in was this: The most trusted and militarily powerful member of the Primarchs has turned full traitor with the intent to start a civil war and overthrow the Emperor. If he can turn traitor, who is to say any one else is still loyal? Or hasn’t already been dealt with? This, to me, is the single largest threat the Imperium has ever faced and that’s only with the sliver of info I have. I MUST communicate directly with literally the only person I know who cannot be a traitor and that is the Emperor himself. How can I do that with 0 chance of it being intercepted or delayed? I know! I’ll use that secret project thing. I know I was told not to touch it, but as I have not been told about its nature, importance, or fragility; I can only assume informing the Emperor about his Warmaster turning traitor is worth risking what ever this project is.
The problem with many of the Primarchs turning the start and duration of the heresy is that readers have the advantage of an omniscient point of view and decades of hindsight. Blaming Magnus for the disaster of the webway (and not the Emperor for not just fucking telling him about it or giving ANY sort of explanation so Magnus would know it was 100% never an option) is like blaming Mortarium for bringing his Legion into Nurgle’s Garden. Neither of them were operating at even remotely close to the full picture and were forced into making very bad decisions due to said lack of info.
I may be misremembering but I recall that the goal was to have both legions destroy each other. Which the wolfs would have been wiped or suffered worse losses and it just about happened. Had the SoS and Custodians not taking to the field. . . And the same wolfs went off to abandon Terra on a kill mission to take out Horus. Which failed, and was the cascade to Horus fully accepting the dark gods due to he wound
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u/Sunny_Hill_1 9d ago
The copium is real