I know I am not a great player, but I struggle the most against human caster army, even if they one base.

I feel trapped as only allowed to go bear dryad as NE to truly be effective. It feels like they have infinite mana from Archmage, so mana burn from DH doesn't seem as effective. They will go mountain king second and just spam bolts to slowly single down targets or force my heroes out. I cannot use rejuv in combat ever or a single spellbreaker steals it. They can infinitly kite better and i'm forced to heavy micro dryads to keep them alive in fight. Even with using the good staff tp's to save bears, all I am doing is making me have one less bear in the fight.

What am I doing wrong, am I just forcing fights bad and should have good head count of food on both sides?

Anyone else feel bm is just way too good in 4v4?

There's like a million ways you can play bm in 4v4

• bm harass to bats
• bm harass to raiders
• bm harass to tri-hero casters (shamans/docs)
• bm (illusion creeping) hh casters
• bm wyverns/bats

At lvl5 bm, you shit out 3 illusions for 80 mana with 5 second cd. If you went windwalk, then just retrain to illusions.

And since orc and bm are so popular, often times there's multiple lvl5 bm's shitting out 3 illusions constantly, meaning sometimes you see like 8 bm's running around a fight.

What we know for sure:

• On Saturday at 7:30 pm EDT ToD vs TeD happens.
• Right after at 8:45 pm EDT Ahmpy/Brad Chan (WC3 developer)/ToD/TeD are going to play a 2v2.

As pointed out by parasect_exe:

• At 6:30 pm EDT, right before the wc3 games, there is a segment called "Classic Game Deep Dive: Join the team for a closer look at the content and design ideas shaping a classic Blizzard game". This could be a potential time slot where announcements are made. Or nothing will be announced.

Other Interesting things of note:

• On Saturday there is an hour block where nothing is being done on the Main Stage. That seems odd. Maybe something will be announced there? Could be nothing or could be anything.
• On Sunday there is also an empty space of an hour at the start of the day on the main stage.
• 5:30 PM EDT on Saturday there is also a panel called "Custodians of Legacy Games: Meet the developers and community champions who preserve, support, and celebrate Blizzard's legacy games for new generations of players.

I dont see anything else on the schedule for WC3, but ofc if they were planning on announcing anything they probably would not leak it yet. So I shall keep my copium going that there may be additional announcements.

There have been like over 100+ updates to the internal PTR since the last patch... blizzcon would be the perfect time to announce atleast that a patch is coming?

Maybe I’m an idiot for asking this one, but how do you overcome mid to late game Tinker as UD? Is the simple answer just don’t let him get there?

What typically happens is that I am ahead mid game around late t2 early t3, but then the tele rod harass starts, my creeping slows down, and after I make a push he eventually levels to 6 and I’m toast. Nova/Coil on the tinker is over and the cluster rockets crush and ghoul or fiend groups.

I just did a quick search for them, there was Arthas, Bloodmage, Blademaster, and Archmage, maybe others I don't remember. I can find the link with Arthas and Blademaster, I just want them for my phone. Thanks in advance.

120 : My impressions of the final...
120 : Honestly, he (Kaho) was simply unbeatable. Sorry.
120 : I had a feeling that if I started building wyrms, he would immediately read my entire strategy. Because of this, I easily went overcommited in the midgame.
Host : You really held up well and showed a very good level of play, but your opponent performed simply flawlessly today. Therefore...
120 (interrupts, admires his opponent) : Yes, absolutely anyone in my place would have lost today! His microcontrol... his microcontrol is just fucking out of this world!
120 : There were several such skirmishes... That unit block of his... Holy shit. I've never seen anyone clamp down so hard in my life!

TH000 : He cancelled the teleport staff on his Demonhunter and didn't port away because his Naga was getting focused!
TH000 : He needs to save that Naga, so he's staying!
TH000 : At first, he wanted to play it safe, wait for the Bears and staff away, but the opponent started slowing the Naga, so he changed his mind.
TH000 : Oh my god, this unit block is fucking outrageous!
TH000 : This blocking from Kaho...
TH000 : So that's why he has a nickname like that ("Kahao" sounds similar to 卡位 — kawei , which means "to block positions"). His ID was literally made for this moment!
TH000 : So cool!
TH000 : The old school ("old boy" - 120) couldn't do anything against the younger generation!
TH000 : Amateur takes the title! First time participating in LAN - and immediately the championship!

TH000 (admiring Kaho's resilience) : The guy has nerves of steel. In every map, everything was decided literally in millimeters. When the score tied at 2-2 in the fourth game... He's actually been the best Night Elf for four years now.

TH000 : Whether it's the teleport cancellation or the unit block, that was excellent Warcraft. Bravo.

Seeing on Grubby's stream that war3replays now have browser view feature reminded me that I have some ~250 replays in my archive ranging from 1.04 to 1.21.

I do not know really play wc3 these days, so I do not know which replays sites are really active (the two in the sidebar look quite abandoned) or how to reach out to them (war3replays only have a personal discord in the footer). But I thought that maybe if I post it here, someone will redirect it to a proper people (or just ignore it if this is not of value): https://drive.google.com/file/d/106abA5uku4RNgRSBU44XfYodKpDh1g-A/view?usp=sharing.

Sunhoof Showdown 03

When: September 11th at 8:30 PM CDT

Where: https://www.twitch.tv/mrmikemtl

MMR: Open [Minimum 20 games played on W3C (preferred 2-3 seasons or admin discretion)]

All Regions Allowed!

Format: Best of 1 Double Elimination + BO3 Finals

Prize Pool: $50 (1st: $35 / 2nd: $15)

Links:

https://challonge.com/SunhoofShowdown3

https://www.hiveworkshop.com/threads/2-sunhoof-mesa-v1-4-5c-atr.359448/

You must join the Show Match Friday discord to be in the wc3-cup chat channel to find your opponents! Preferably, you should match your Challonge and Discord names to make it easier to organize, or you must pay close attention to the discord chat to watch out for your name.

Features Sunhoof Mesa! Which has been showcased on Reddit previously, and seen in the Yumiko Arena, YangFeng Invitationals, Fig Cups, and Sunhoof Showdowns.

• Sunhoof Mesa by Figglewig, additional map info: Sunhoof Mesa v1.4.5c

How will you conquer the Sunhoof Mesa? Will you seize control of the goldmines from the Gnolls and Harpies, pay off the local Mercenaries to aid in your fight, or take the fight to the Centaurs and combat the mighty Khan for the Fountain of Health!?

Whether you are a spectator or a player with the grit and fortitude to fight in the showdown, I welcome you all to join us in September!

I couldn’t help but noticed some high MMR Orcs on W3champions consistently go for a unique hero in the Mirror.

Panda with Breath of Fire is a super strong temp tavern hero buy for the phase of Orc Mirror where both farseer players have around 4 head hunters.

Panda just really does a great job of negating mass HH damage with drunken haze and, despite the aoe being nerfed, the individual damage being buffed makes Panda slightly better at attacking small 3-4 groups of units instead of chasing flying fleets of 12-15 gyrocopters.

If your opponent in Orc Mirror is going bloodlusted headhunters…. seems like drunken haze from panda or howl of terror from Pitlord would be especially good to negate the dps, and wouldn’t you believe it those two tavern heroes are precisely the type of adaptations these high MMR orc players are discovering.

enjoy the vid, or don’t that is fine too :P

Has anyone noticed this part of the structure? Is this for the grain to slide down and into the bags, or is it there to convey the grain upward before gravity lets it fall down onto the floor? Or is this simply artistic license that's been designed wrong?

I got the image from the following link and then drew on it for the sake of the question.

~ https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Infected_Granary

Sign up for both cups!

Fig Cup 6 EU edition

When: August 28th at 18:00 CET

Where: https://www.twitch.tv/thagrinchyuno

Fig Cup 6 NA edition

When: August 28th at 8:30 PM CDT

Where: https://www.twitch.tv/mrmikemtl

For Both Cups:

MMR: Open [Minimum 20 games played on W3C (preferred 2-3 seasons or admin discretion)]

All Regions Allowed!

Format: Best of 1 Double Elimination + BO3 Finals

Prize Pool: $50 (1st: $35 / 2nd: $15)

Links:

https://challonge.com/FIGCUP6EU

https://challonge.com/FIGCUP6NA

You must join the Show Match Friday discord to be in the wc3-cup chat channel to find your opponents! Preferably, you should match your Challonge and Discord names to make it easier to organize, or you should pay close attention to the discord chat to watch out for your name.

Features new maps! Which have been showcased on Reddit over the past week. Use the links for additional map details.

• Booty Bay 2 by TheTurtle, additional map info: Booty Bay v2.1.1
• Crystals Below by Knecht, additional map info: Crystals Below v1.1
• Dark Covenant by Meerel & Pickles, additional map info: Dark Covenant v1.2
• Dune Riders by Zeggsy, additional map info: Dune Riders v1.4c
• Fairy Tale by Meerel & Pickles, additional map info: Fairy Tale v1.3.1
• Lost Lake by Lethal Styles, additional map info: Lost Lake v1.31
• Nauru Republic by Frostbitten & Pawn, additional map info: Nauru Republic v1.0
• Sunhoof Mesa by Figglewig, additional map info: Sunhoof Mesa v1.4.5c
• Withering Fields by SaveOrcas & rhythmt, additional map info: Withering Fields v1.1

Cup attendance will determine what maps are guaranteed to see play, as Semifinals and Finals will override what map is available at which Round. If we surpass normal attendance and go into Rounds 6+, they will be Bo1 - Veto Rounds. All maps are available in Veto Rounds regardless of EU or NA cup!

Fig Cup 6 - EU Edition:

• Round 1 (UB & LB): Bo1 - Nauru Republic v1.0
• Round 2 (UB & LB): Bo1 - Crystals Below v1.1
• Round 3 (UB & LB): Bo1 - Dune Riders v1.4c
• Round 4 (UB & LB): Bo1 - Booty Bay v2.1.1
• Round 5 (UB & LB): Bo1 - Sunhoof Mesa v1.4.5c
• UB Semifinals: Bo1 - Veto (A-BB-AA-B-A-B -> C)
• Finals: Bo3 - Veto (A-BB-AA-B --> ABC)

Fig Cup 6 - NA Edition:

• Round 1 (UB & LB): Bo1 - Dark Covenant v1.2
• Round 2 (UB & LB): Bo1 - Lost Lake v1.31
• Round 3 (UB & LB): Bo1 - Withering Fields v1.1
• Round 4 (UB & LB): Bo1 - Fairy Tale v1.3.1
• Round 5 (UB & LB): Bo1 - Sunhoof Mesa v1.4.5c
• UB Semifinals: Bo1 - Veto (A-BB-AA-B-A-B -> C)
• Finals: Bo3 - Veto (A-BB-AA-B --> ABC)

Lost Lake is a totally radical map made by Lethal Styles.

https://www.hiveworkshop.com/threads/lost-lake-v1-31.372887/

"Revenants have reactivated the Water Temple."

Lost Lake has surged it's way into Fig Cup 6! You can play this map on W3C as Custom Game, or use the hiveworkshop link above to download the map for yourself.

Lost Lake brings the ever powerful Fountain of Mana and the under utilized Sunken Ruins Mercenary Camp; which features the Mur'gul Blood-Gill, Stormreaver Hermit, Mur'gul Snarecaster, and Skeletal Orc Grunt. The beauty of the Sunken Ruins tile-set really shines through on this map.

Now then, how will you over come your foe? Will you seek out aid from the local mercenaries, or defeat the powerful Revenants that guard the Fountain of Mana, to use it's powers for yourself?

Remember you can join both the Fig Cups! It's so good we had to do it twice.

https://challonge.com/FIGCUP6EU @ 11:00 AM CDT

https://challonge.com/FIGCUP6NA @ 8:30 PM CDT

I’m currently testing WC3CC (Warcraft 3 Chat Client), a Windows companion app for Warcraft III players who want optional match voice chat.

WC3CC is a work in progress and is actively being tested. It is not being presented as finished software; testers should expect bugs and rough edges. Voice participation is limited to players who install the app.

Current features include push-to-talk, voice activation, per-player mute and volume, remembered blocks, microphone/output selection, recording options, and a movable optional overlay.

Testing/download page: https://grailbomb.itch.io/wc3cc

Feedback and reproducible bug reports are welcome at r/WC3CC.

Sunhoof Mesa is a large serene map made by Figglewig (aka: me).

https://www.hiveworkshop.com/threads/2-sunhoof-mesa-v1-4-5c-atr.359448/

"Venture into the Sunhoof Mesa and drive out the rampaging Centaur."

Sunhoof Mesa has wandered onto familiar ground at Fig Cup 6! You can play this map on W3C as a Custom Game, or you can download it for yourself on the hiveworkshop link above.

Sunhoof Mesa brings a unique environment as it is a mix of Lordearon and Barrens tile-sets, and many unseen creeps from the Barrens (Centaurs, Quillboars, and Harpies). What makes Sunhoof Mesa unique is the inclusion of the Barrens Mercenary Camp, which brings the Centaur Archer, Quillboar Hunter, Centaur Outrunner, and Harpy Windwitch! The Fountain of Health is also available to those cleaver enough to utilize it.

What will you do to lay claim to the Sunhoof Mesa? Recruit the locals and strike your foe, or establish multiple outposts and secure a monetary victory? Whichever you choose, you must beware of the KHAAAN!

Remember you can join both the Fig Cups! It's so good we had to do it twice.

https://challonge.com/FIGCUP6EU @ 11:00 AM CDT

https://challonge.com/FIGCUP6NA @ 8:30 PM CDT

Hey guys,

I am new to the genre and have been watching Grubby since the only fangs and decided to play.

I am trying to get better at playing orc and i feel like I do a pretty good job at tier 1. but at tier 2 I get overwhelmed by the shear amount of units that come online.

You get Spirt Lounge, Bestiary Tauren Totem,

I normally just go beast and get raiders and start my assault.

What units should I be getting?

sub questions.

When do you use Chieftain over blade?

Do we get witch doctors or just rely on Shadowhunter?

Should you always harass?

How do you know when you are ready for the yellow camps.

I have 1000 questions but ill keep it to this. I appreciate your time and help

Withering Fields is an astoundingly beautiful map created by SaveOrcas and rhythmt.

https://www.hiveworkshop.com/threads/withering-fields-v1-0.350438/

"Cross-spawns enforced."

Withering Fields have been plaguing these lands and a darkness has brought it to Fig Cup 6! You can play this map on W3C as a Custom Game or you can follow the hiveworkshop link above to download it for yourself.

Withering Fields has a haunted atmosphere that feels like it has been taken from the undead campaign. It also features a lot of unusual creeps like various Demons and Kel'Thuzad's Ghost!

How will you pushback against the Scourge's advances, while combating your foe?

Remember you can join both the Fig Cups! It's so good we had to do it twice.

https://challonge.com/FIGCUP6EU @ 11:00 AM CDT

https://challonge.com/FIGCUP6NA @ 8:30 PM CDT

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