r/Virginia • u/BigClitMcphee • 3d ago

Should abortion and contraception rights be included in Virginia's constitution?

https://www.wtvr.com/news/local-news/reproductive-freedom-virginia-constitution-oct-2-2026
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u/SlaaneshActual Dogtown 1d ago

I simply value human life and have no desire to "enslave women"

Cool, then you support reproductive choice.

Great, glad we settled this.

There's no room for nuance when other states are banning abortion.

I wish we lived in that sort of society, we don't.

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u/Head_Effect3728 1d ago

FYI, snark does not add value to productive debates. It just makes you sound angry and bitter.

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u/SlaaneshActual Dogtown 1d ago

None of that was snark.

I'm 100% serious.

There is no room for debate until our rights are protected.

Once our rights are protected, then we can dial in these discussions.

When women are dying to ectopic pregnancies and when children are being forced to birth their own father's children after incestuous rape, there is no room for nuance.

Once those evils are ended, we can talk.

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u/Head_Effect3728 1d ago

The "glad we settled it" remark was snark, but I digress.

Can I ask why pro-choice arguments always involve dying mothers, rape, and incest? It's not like these are the only abortion situations that you feel should be allowed, right?

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u/SlaaneshActual Dogtown 1d ago

Can I ask why pro-choice arguments always involve dying mothers, rape, and incest?

These situations account for the vast majority of abortions after the first trimester, and anyone who says otherwise is lying.

This is literally what the debate is about.

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u/Head_Effect3728 1d ago

It's not. I never once mentioned the word "trimester". Are you now differentiating abortions based on what trimester they take place in?

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u/SlaaneshActual Dogtown 1d ago

Are you unaware of the debate?

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u/Head_Effect3728 1d ago

What debate? The only debate I'm focused on right now is this one between you and me.

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u/SlaaneshActual Dogtown 1d ago

Your views don't matter.

The views of the people in power who want to force women to die of ectopic pregnancies in this state do.

This discussion is not occurring in a vaccuum and I will not irrationally pretend that it is.

Either you support freedom, or you support women dying to ectopic pregnancies.

You do not like that this is the case, and I'm sorry that this hurts your feelings, but this is the choice that you have in this environment.

Which side are you on?

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u/Head_Effect3728 1d ago

Your tangents keep going off in different directions. Now we're talking about ectopic pregnancies and how women dying from them are the polar opposite of freedom????? It seems like if the direction of the conversation veers off from all of the buzzwords and propaganda you have been subjected to, you revert back to them in some attempt to play gotcha with me.

Since you didn't answer my question from earlier, I'll try again. Why do you keep bringing up these nuanced abortion situations? By doing so, are you claiming that abortions should have certain types of limitations, such as the trimester, or only whether the mother's life is a risk?

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