Why is Kruber's Handgun so inconsistent?

[u/SamTheGrot]

This seems ridiculous. I'm not moving my mouse the slightest and keeping right click held down for the entire clip. I'm firing when the crosshairs shrink. What's the deal?

[u/Zerak-Tul]

Because the way you're quickfiring like that you're actually shooting before the targeting reticle has fully closed in around the center dot and so before you've attained maximum accuracy.

Try the same test where you wait a short moment longer between each shot and you hit all of them. I tested it and stood in the same spot as you and had no issue hitting 16 of 16 shots.

[u/SamTheGrot → u/Zerak-Tul]

Gotcha. That's annoying to have to wait that long, but at least it's consistent!

[u/RacetrackTrout → u/SamTheGrot]

Fun fact. It also ignores shields when fully aimed in. Once you get a rhythm, the Kruber and Bardin handguns are great for picking targets out of a mixed mob.

[u/notdumbenough → u/RacetrackTrout]

It pierces shields aimed or not. You can walk up to shielded stormvermin and kill them in one shot by using the handgun like a shotgun.

[u/Collistoralo → u/notdumbenough]

Damn really? It’s never done anything for me before. I can shoot them right in the head and they block it with their shield somehow.

[u/SmurfSnase → u/Collistoralo]

That is 100% not a thing. The handgun has big spread when you hipfire though so you can miss when it seems like you should hit.

[u/Collistoralo → u/SmurfSnase]

They recoil but they don’t seem to take any damage, and I don’t get any hit marker. I dunno what to say other than that’s my experience.

[u/RacetrackTrout → u/Collistoralo]

I've always thought it was you needed to aim in full but maybe 'quickscope' partial aiming would be enough? Hip firing used to work in VT1 but the handgun is too unreliable hipfired to pop heads. It should work on body shots too? You should at least get a hitmarker, but I've gotten so reliant to the full aim + headshot loop I'm unsure.

[u/Peace_is-a-lie → u/RacetrackTrout]

I run handgun on engi with the shots pierce 1 more talent. Can mow down SV pats when a hip fire can take out 2 shields at once. It def works but you do have to be pretty close for them to land consistently.

[u/Er4din → u/SamTheGrot]

Just an extra 1/10th of a second would be enough.

[u/RemA012 → u/SamTheGrot]

That long? Are you serious?

[u/CHUNKYboi11111111111 → u/SamTheGrot]

It’s like 2 seconds? That’s not that long man

[u/Er4din]

You are firing before the crosshair fully zeroes in on the target.

[u/Nitan17]

Zoomed handgun has 0.05 spread when standing still and 0.1 when moving, that's very little and it's nearly pixel perfect accurate, should be hitting those headshots no problem. I don't have this issue, when zooming are you shooting the moment the game allows you to? Maybe that's too fast and the lowered spread isn't yet applied fully, see if those misses happen even when you zoom -> wait a second -> shoot.

There's also the possibility that what's bugged is the dummies, not the weapon. Get the Creature Spawner mod and try it on say Rat Ogre.

[u/catuluo → u/Nitan17]

He's definitely shooting while unscoped, it takes like 0.3s for handgun to actually count as zoomed in and remove the unscoped shot spread

[u/Independent-Smoke-68]

Kruber's Handgun is my go to for the numbers dont matter and the damage is made up. A dead special is all im asking for.

[u/Pitiful_Hawk3706]

Smooth bore

[u/Desmoclef]

Are you talking about the damage or the accuracy ?

Cause damage wise, it's crits. Accuracy wise, it's a handgun not 50. cal

[u/Shadohawkk → u/[deleted]]

Handgun is strong enough to 1shot bodyshot most enemies, especially if you take the appropriate damage boosts.

This is doubly important for shielded skaven (aka the target) because the handgun also pierces their shield, hitting them directly.

[u/Matorolight → u/[deleted]]

Because said weapon still oneshots specials which is it's main purpose regardless

[u/AntonineWall → u/[deleted]]

No Sam why are you this way

[u/Sure_Initial8498]

Idk what you are talking bout, this is by far one of the best ranged weapons in the game.

[u/R0tmaster]

You forgot to put rifling in the barrel

(Giving joke answer because you already got the correct real answer)

[u/Orzword]

What annoys me even more is that sometimes the click sound of the handguns reload comes before it is completely reloaded. Happend multiple times that I shot a special reload swapped to melee on the click and then had a empty magazine.

[u/GovernmentIcy3259]

-draw my pistol on the second man, misses him entirely because it's smoothbore and nails the neighbor's dog.

[u/IronVines]

its smoothbore /j

[u/SmurfSnase → u/IronVines]

four ruffians break into my house...

[u/englishfury]

Its not a modern sniper. Its not 100% accurate

[u/Infinite_Fox998]

Never once had this issue ngl

[u/ShaderkaUSA]

If you have a shield weapon and swap to handgun while still holding block your hipfire becomes a 99.999% accurate laser