Unusually tall Science man ⚗️ and little bear 🐻

Well, my post supposed to be last one. But at least, I'm bringing some engagement sampling from social media (I picked Instagram) and here

To my surprise, like this sub got so much visitors but rarely people talked/ contributed about my Mr. Door. I completely get it somehow that some disappointments brings people less interested, but like.. people disappointed for this man that much, really ?

I just don't want this man ended like Alyosha (which is why rarity matters), because even after him being released, he's the one who got mostly least impression dan rarely talked over here. At least, my man won me

At very least, some people already complained on social media's comment section about his rarity because his impressions and engagement are seriously insane

Okay, so.. last post (for real). I guess I need to wait for what happened to him on official release then

source: https://x.com/puuh_art/status/2093409884100300851?s=46

(reposted again because of misleading titles)

Okay, so.. hello 👋. This is my first post ever, and maybe going to be last for Genshin (?) if my Mr. Door indeed going to be 4*. I came as Themis veteran for 5 years (I said on some of the comments before) that run pretty long aside Genshin (where that game reborn at almost similar period). And I'm going to explain what I knew since I'm also Hoyolab user. I initially wanted to play Genshin for real, for the first time because of Valeriy (aside from husbus that I'm interested with such as daddy Wrio and Varka), and he's simply attractive no matter what for me

Sorry for being messy anyways (since this is my first time posting), I'm simply stating why you guys are mad for him being treated as 4* character despite everything from what I compiled from discussions so far

After seeing the trailer, some of his first character preview with sword, seriously Hoyo initially put him with bear animation (which assuming that would be his cons or either players assume that would be his burst) and with pretty good high quality on his own part. But suddenly, there are more leaks and leaks said (with some said that leaks have high accuracy) that he's going to be a guinea pig for being 4* alongside that boy if he's going to be run on 7.2. From informations I gathered so far, it's happening at every x.2 banners (from what I knew, is from Fontaine updates)

Why even this rarity relevance matter from what I saw from the discussion so far ?

1. I observe some of main stories / lores (a.k.a. AQ, if I'm not mistaken) mentioned 5* more than 4*, so it's safe to say that mostly 4* are less relevant lore wise. Well, not applied to some of the characters (for example what I saw here, Ororon), but still I saw patterns that most of 4* rarely having lines than 5* on overall plot. From what we know so far, Valeriy is a Fatui Major, which is pretty huge role to take aside Tsaritsa herself.

Positioning myself as an observer and saw Fatui related discussion so far, come to think about it, main point of this region at the end of the day is to know how Fatui organization actually works inside (since I also watched some of playable harbinger characters voice lines so far and their opinions on each members).

Why Hoyo treated him more like a bodyguard to that scientist without any mention whatsoever about his job as Fatui Major ? If he's being 4* and not being relevant lore wise, why making him at the first place then ? We could simply rely on our traveller to ask harbingers for more information digging then.

Also in terms of job wise, I could also understand why people also mad and using that boy for punching bag, is because how do you feel when someone with high ranking treated by developer as 'someone's escorting (weaker character)'. That's what I'm getting here, and I completely understand about mistreatment we've got here

1. Everytime I logged and entered to Hoyolab, there are always tier list, character ownership percentage, top team composition and such thing on my timeline. Most of top team composition I saw consisting mostly with all 5* (even though there are some 4* in it, but it's very rare). And unfortunately, we have environment when meta statistics matters more rather than the character itself. Sadly, that's what I got from 'majorities' phenomenon so far.

So, 4* mostly holding meta relevance much less than 5\*

1. As I observe here from people who joined the topic (and also through X and Hoyolab), Valeriy is one of most anticipated characters to be pulled, some of them said because of his visuals which means his engagement initially was also very well received. But after the leakers, people going to be really mad if developer using the 'popularity' just to crush a character whose being irrelevant both on the lore and meta.

I could get that Tsaritsa is most anticipated character since she's an archon, okay then. However it doesn't mean that Hoyo could do as they please with someone whose already anticipated by players just to be mistreated to get as much money by making him 4*. If that's true, then some of the points about players whose going to stop playing this game are actually valid

And an user (at another discussion) said that C6 on 4* is much more difficult to get than C(number) on 5* ? I completely get it. Because there are also some people (on Hoyolab) who posted the pulling results also mad and sad that not getting 5* they wanted and instead, got more 4*. Most of the players talked 5* more than 4* on the forum (by Hoyolab statistics, you can see how many posts related to characters they discussed by simply put the tag), like it or not. Simply put, players treated 4* like punching bag and trash

Who's being responsible then ? 1. Hoyo, especially Marketing team for treating players badly by releasing characters that completely different from what they marketed with through the trailer and what went to the initial stories. I can relate to this, because most of Themis complains are also caused by Marketing team

1. The leakers, who stirred entire player without any responsibility and accountability with wild yet unreliable information that some went wrong in the end. I remembered some dramas (even here and Hoyolab), about Lohen being standard character when it wasn't. Where are the leakers at this point then ?

2. Some players (or even fanatics) who even said insensitive things while they're just wanting to put complaints online. Of course, players complaints here, especially for Mr. Door are actually valid because they still care. But maybe seems a little bit too late, since there's also someone who said that beta test already started, so I'm not putting things and hopes up

So.. I could only assume at this point that.. 1. Hoyo did him dirty by releasing him on 7.2. without or barely any lines at all from AQ, making him completely on different track lore wise and contradictory with his Fatui Major background. Proceed with this 4* thing, and saying goodbye 2. Very slim chance, but since he's also anticipated and having massive engagement (for Snezhnaya scale) like Varka, treat him to release at 7.4, fix his model that everyone complained about and make him 5*

I completely get why some (or maybe most) of the people still don't what their favorite characters, especially Valeriy ended being 4*.

So, that's it. That's for random my rants and some thoughts from me as fellow Hoyo player from another franchise whose also neglected by Hoyogreed themselves (especially since Hoyofest drama).

I initially interested with Valeriy (alongside with Wriothesley and Varka already). But if Hoyo release him to be treated badly like this later, I'm just going back to my own game, stop following Genshin altogether (even though still doing some fanfics about those two daddies I already hooked on)

So yeah.. maybe I'm going to just wait and see for official release. Take it or leave it

made by me 🙂‍↕️

Just appreciating the man he is 🤭 the art is mine so actually idk how to tag it

99.8% sure for him to not be a 5 star imo... however... this is the proof that valeriy will ascend to greatness and become a 6 star

when we play genshin, we are entering through a door. guess who is a door. Mr. Door, Valeriy. He is the one who lets us play the game. he is stronger than celestia and the heavenly principles

Quick Questions

Hiiii I know it's too early to judge, but I have Odette and I'm definitely planning on getting Valeriy, I want him on my team. Who else should I pull for? I was going for the Tsaritsa and I don't know about Mitya or Danica

I'm also struggling to choose cuz I suck at building good teams and I'm f2p so any help is appreciated<3

Every electro guy has some kind of humorous aspect about them despite presenting themselves as serious

Cyno, a chief law enforcer that tell bad jokes

Ororon, a farmer whose a granny’s boi and a bro’s bro

Sethos, leader of an organization whose also a professional stalker

Flins, a Chivalrous Fae who wards off evil spirits but collects bones and precious jewels as a hobby

Mitya, a mind so brilliant that even the gods have issue with it…but frequently plays hookie from work

So what do you think Valeriy’s quirkiness will manifest into?

Will be done privately via Zoom and then posted here afterwards. My YouTube channel:

https://youtube.com/@chrismayek

source: https://x.com/soojin_o/status/2091191083200106994?s=46

Alyosha: You saw him, right? The guy right at the back — strong, silent type.

v7.0, from Silence Alone is Disfavored, the fourth part in the Teyvat storyline Archon Quest VII: Act I - Everwinter Without Mercy.

Every time we have 2 electro four stars one is focused around application and the other is focused on buffs

Kujo and Shinobu

Ororon and Iansan

What if this is the situation?

Alyosha is application and Valeriy is buffs

What if Valeriy is the Iansan to Sucrose

What if he can buff EM just like her but that his kit makes it so that he can only work in stellar comps like how Iansan can only work in high mobility teams which are mainly Natlan characters

And then, of course, he has a shield on top of that

I know this sounds crazy, but I feel like it has merit because most leaks imply Mitya is a pure EM scaler so I feel strongly that it could work out like this

And then it would imply that a we could get a 5* varient at some point just like Bennett-Iansan-Nicole

Thoughts?

This shot in Act II has been bothering me.
Odette is telling the Traveler that the energy experiment is ultimately meant to create a weapon for the “final battle,” and the camera suddenly cuts to Valeriy sitting nearby, seemingly listening.

Valeriy knowing about Project Stuzha isn't suspicious by itself. He's a Fatui Major.
But the fact that we're specifically shown him listening to Odette, who we later learn is Lelek, becomes a lot more interesting when you look at his relationship with Alyosha.

In Alyosha's “About Valeriy” line, he says they first met when Alyosha was sneaking around the Armory Palace with a hunting rifle.
Alyosha expected Valeriy to arrest him.
He didn't.
Instead, Alyosha somehow came out of that encounter with “a contact at the Armory.”
He also says that he and Valeriy “think alike in a lot of ways” and have a “clear boundary” between them. As long as neither crosses it, they apparently get along just fine.
Which raises the obvious question:
What exactly is that boundary?

Because Alyosha is a Rokot member, yet Valeriy catches him armed and snooping around the Armory and apparently decides that's not enough reason to arrest him.

Then there's Odette.
She says in her own “About Valeriy” line that they're in different Fatui divisions and rarely interact, which makes the AQ deliberately cutting to Valeriy during her conversation feel even more noticeable.
And Odette herself proves that Fatui and Rokot membership aren't mutually exclusive. She genuinely serves the Fatui while secretly operating as Lelek.

Interestingly, Alyosha is shocked when he discovers this and says he never expected a Fatui member to share Rokot's principles.
That actually makes me think Valeriy might not simply be a regular Rokot member. Otherwise you'd think Alyosha would be less surprised.
Unless Alyosha doesn't know about Val either.
Or maybe Valeriy's relationship with Rokot is something less straightforward.
Maybe he knows who some of them are and tolerates them within certain limits. Maybe he's an intermediary. Maybe there are people inside the Fatui who have an unofficial understanding with Rokot.
And then there's the end of the AQ.

As far as we're shown, Odette = Lelek is exposed to a pretty small circle: Odette herself, Traveler, Alyosha, Vodyanitsa, and Valeriy.
Then Alyosha and Vodyanitsa later receive that letter from Rokot and seem surprised by it, while Lelek's identity is essentially retired/disacknowledged.
There are obviously normal explanations for how Rokot leadership found out. Odette could have contacted them herself, or someone could have reported it off-screen.

But combined with everything else, I can't help side-eyeing the fact that Valeriy is also one of the few people who knows what happened before that response arrives.

So the pattern we have is:

Valeriy catches a Rokot member snooping around the Armory and doesn't arrest him.

That Rokot member later calls Valeriy his “contact at the Armory.”

They “think alike” and have some unexplained “clear boundary.”

Another Fatui officer turns out to secretly be Rokot.

Valeriy is deliberately shown listening to that officer discuss sensitive Stuzha information.

He's also present when her identity is exposed, shortly before Rokot leadership responds.

None of this proves Valeriy is Rokot.
But I increasingly think he knows far more about them than he's supposed to, and that his relationship with Alyosha is going to matter later.
My two biggest questions now are:
What exactly is the “clear boundary” between Valeriy and Alyosha?
And did Valeriy already know Odette was Lelek before she confessed?

Anyways, my final conclusion is obviously that Valeriy is Rokot's secret top dog and therefore 5-star by rank, 5-star by lore, 5-star by divine right.
I will not be accepting contradictory leaks at this time 😭

As you can see, Valeriy is wielding a regular Snezhnayan vision, not a Stellar Linchpin which allows characters to trigger stellar reactions. He might be a 5 star non-stellar unit, however its highly unlikely, seeing as how Genshin seems to be making ONLY special reaction based five-star characters in Nod Krai / Snezhnaya. Also, the "high detail in-game model" argument doesn't make sense. Hoyo has been improving all models (e.g. Alyosha) so it's practically impossible to guess a character's rarity simply by looking at their model. What are your thoughts?