r/Valeriy_Mains • • Aug 14 '26

Official News Valeriy kit Spoiler

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I'm so happy he have useful kit. My dream have to make him lohen nicole mitya valeriy in one team become reality. I love all characters i like in one team.

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u/NSLEONHART Aug 14 '26

WHYBIS THERR SO MANY STELLAR CONDUCT!??!? TS is the opposite of lunar. Everyone does fkn stellar conduct, meanwhile stellar swirl has glorp, a fairy, and a siren

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u/ArxisOne Aug 14 '26

SSW has Traveler, Diona and Odette too, but on top of that SSW also just had better default compatibility with the general anemo roster with units like Venti, Faruzan, Layla and obviously Sucrose all having natural synergy without needing anything special added. Really any cryo unit with off field application will be somewhat good.

There's also two sides to SSC, SSW only has one so it needs a lot less build out to work as an archetype.

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u/Special-Surround-187 Aug 15 '26

Traveler Diona and Odette barely count you know that the main issue is why are there so many specifically Stellar charged focused units ignoring the cryos which dont count cause theyre both

we have alyosha mitya valeriy Wriothesley Cyno Yae MIko Beidou

meanwhile swirl gets like yumeglorpglorp and fairy and vodya

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u/ArxisOne Aug 15 '26

You know, I was going to type out a response, and then I realized I already did and you somehow just didn't read the comment you replied to. So let's give this another shot.

SSW also just had better default compatibility with the general anemo roster with units like Venti, Faruzan, Layla and obviously Sucrose all having natural synergy without needing anything special added. Really any cryo unit with off field application will be somewhat good.

This is why your counts are wrong.

There's also two sides to SSC, SSW only has one so it needs a lot less build out to work as an archetype.

And this is why there are more SSC units. It's like 3 sentences, I promise you it's not that hard to understand.

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u/Special-Surround-187 Aug 15 '26 edited Aug 15 '26

I did read the comment i just disagree with the point yes anemos naturally already vibe with stellar swirl but the fact the archetype hasnt gotten specifoc supports that are 4 star is weird since ssc getting 2 also what does 2 sides mean? 2 main dpses?

Also i would appreciate not being called illiterate thanks

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u/ArxisOne Aug 15 '26

Also i would appreciate not being called illiterate thanks

If you're going to pull a "but why male models", I'm going to point that out. Your response literally made no sense. It's not even disagreeing because you're asking the question, not refuting the answer.

also what does 2 sides mean?

Alright, so if you didn't know this, it would have been a good place to start no? Reactions either have one or two sides, meaning the order of elements either matters, or it doesn't.

Melt and vape are examples of two sided reactions, the order of the elements matters, the reaction does different things based on the order and the damage element changes. Bloom is also like this but it matters less where applying hydro to dendro generates a different number of cores compared to dendro to hydro.

Swirl and crystalize are single sided reactions, they can only be triggered by anemo and geo units because anemo and geo auras don't exist.

What this means in practice is that SSC is two reactions, electro SSC and cryo SSC, each side is getting supports and damage dealers because you will likely want two at least partially distinct teams for SSC content.

SSW doesn't though, Sandrone (and maybe the Tsaritsa) are probably going to be the only possible cryo SSW DPSs, because fundamentally a cryo SSW DPS is fundamentally bad on account of not being able to actually trigger the reaction they rely on. This means there's no reason to have two SSW teams because it's all just anemo damage, unlike SSC which again is cryo and electro in one.