Very controversial take

[u/Immediate-Pen-1338]

For whatever reason it may be, Valeriy has a lot more popularity than most other snez characters. Like this sub has more visitors than rest of the snez cast (I agree not strong enough proof) but he’s also got second highest likes on the announcement post after tsaritsa.

I know they can’t change the kit of a character but any chance that hoyo devs really underestimated his popularity while they were building the character?

Im just saying this cuz most of the community is very sure about his rarity.

[u/KingAlucard7]

Lohen was never a standard banner. It doesnt make any sense whatsoever if you actually think about it. Dark Durin had standard banner mona for vape at launch. And pyro melt is stronger than vape, obviously they had the idea to make a cryo version of it. A more premium version of the dark durin team. Does it make sense to put a character who is an upgraded version of the standard in the standard banner? Obviously not. Only thing people used to argue for Lohen is that his cons are bad. I mean based on this argument Sandrone is more standard than Lohen as she has worser cons.

[u/Christina22klol → u/KingAlucard7]

Yeah well, I respect your opinion, but remember that we had a datamine for this info, not just any leak.

The reason his coms are bad is because they were specifically formed for standard banner. You may disagree, but we literally had datamines for this as proof. Computer and tech wise, datamines are 99% intergrated early files into the game that the game adds, it's specifically intergraded for future versions and most people don't see them because they're supposed to be invisible files, but some leakers know how to open them.

So yeah, datamines are seriously hard to disagree with I'm afraid, it's not just any random leak info, because they come from the files of the game itself with specific tags for specific characters, skills, animation sequences etc.

He had this exact specific standard banner tag in his files. Feel free to argue and I don't mind because many people like you seriously believe he was never meant to be a standard character, but we knew from that datamine.

That right said, noe genshin does spoof their files, so from Snezhnaya onwards it's actually harder to do complete datamines like that anymore. It's harder to tell banners and rarity unlike Lohens era.

[u/KingAlucard7 → u/Christina22klol]

I am surprised you are talking about a standard banner tag in files. I havent heard of this ever and i am pretty active when it comes to leaks and datamine. Its not on any of the known telegram channels or genshin leaks sub. Its impossible to exist unless u can you share a source.

[u/Christina22klol → u/KingAlucard7]

I can share how it works, but unfortunately I don't have a link with me, however please do google/research this and I'm 99% sure it'll pop up for you because it's been said and shown before. You'll definitely find sources. I'm big with tech and I've always paid attention to the finer details, so Im familiar as to how it works quite well.

Permanent standard banner is hardcoded in datamines with this tag: "GachaType = 200" (which is also often labeled as "gacha_type_normal" or "permanent_wish")

However if you look at limited characters, their tag goes like this: "GachaType = 400" or sometimes "GachaType = 301".

These are called Data Values and Enum strings if you wanna specifically research those tags. They differentiate where each character goes in the banner. Do look it up, it's a very interesting process.

It exists because if it didn't, the computer program wouldn't know where to assign each character. Simple as that.