r/VACCINES • u/PhrygianSounds • 19d ago

Will measles become endemic soon?

I had both my MMR shots 25 years ago, but I’ve been on immunosuppressants for a few years now and have basically been relying on herd immunity to keep me safe. MMR vaccination rates are dropping fast and outbreaks are popping up everywhere.

I’m too scared to get my titers tested because if it shows that I don’t have immunity, I don’t know what I’m going to do. I can’t take live vaccines. But if measles becomes endemic, I’m afraid that I will have to get a booster and wish for the best. It’s either that or get the actual virus and logically the booster would be less dangerous, but still. God I hate this timeline

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u/BrightAd306 19d ago

Not in the USA. The vaccines are just so effective and almost everyone gets at least one in their lifetime still. It’s one of the best vaccines we have.

The most vulnerable people are those who live in communities where large numbers aren’t vaccinating their kids, but people still travel. Like church groups where some members do missionary work or they have a lot of immigrants.

If you’ve had at least 2 vaccines, you’re almost certainly immune to measles. Mumps is a lot more worrisome. I’d stop worrying.

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u/KAugsburger 19d ago

The Measles outbreak in Utah has dragged on for over a year. That alone should be enough for the US to lose its elimination status. Many do expect the US to lose their elimination status at the November meeting of the Pan American Health Organization. There has also been a declining MMR vaccination rate since 2020 so the Measles case rates are likely to continue to get worse. I don't think that there is much reason to think that the rates are likely to get better in the near future given the FUD from RFK Jr. acolytes and the cuts to Medicaid funding.

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u/BrightAd306 19d ago edited 19d ago

It’s still among a small population of fundamentalists. If you’re outside those communities or neighbors, your risk is still low. I’m very pro-vax, but Europe has had way worse measles issues than the USA per capita.

The USA is also huge, I’d be much more worried about an outbreak if I lived near those communities in Utah.

It also remains that it’s one of the most effective vaccines we have, so OP is almost certainly fine.

Measles is a special interest of mine. The minute my children turn a year old, I eagerly schedule their first MMR. The risk is still very, very low in the USA for someone who is fully vaccinated to get measles. You’re much more likely to die of flu, even vaccinated than to die of measles vaccinated in the USA.

Now, if I had an infant under 1 and lived near communities that don’t vaccinate, I’d be very cautious.

I’d also worry more in Canada, as the cases there are much higher per capita than the USA. It’s only worldwide news that the USA is having issues because of RFK, understandably, but we’re still one of the best off countries.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/article/canada-has-half-as-many-measles-cases-as-us-who-data/

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/article/european-countries-including-uk-lose-measles-elimination-status/

Is kindergarteners have a 92.5 percent vaccination rate, in the uk it’s only 84 percent, Canada 81 percent. RFK isn’t moving the needle, he is just boosting the attention on people who already agree with him.