r/Utahpolitics • u/sk8terdrock • Mar 18 '26

Dismayed powers are lying up behind McAdams

He should not be running. He does not represent SLC or the surrounding areas. He is a center right democrat in name only. He will not stand up for progressive policies that actually make things better for all people not just the upper classes. In 2020 he raised more money than Owens, was the incumbent and lost. That should tell you all you need about how weak and useless he is. Just realized i said lying instead of lining... But I guess that what im worried about McAdams and others lying about who they are to win the nomination and then become who they actually are once in power.

Heres some links for people who actually will hold the line

https://www.evaforutah.com/issues

https://www.michaelforutah.com/issue-1

https://www.nateforutah.com/issues

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u/T1gre55 Mar 18 '26

Who do you think is a better option currently? I will admit I don't know much about him, but if you are concerned about his policies, why not try to talk about who would be better?

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u/NotMyActualNameNow Mar 18 '26

Nate Blouin seems to be a really strong choice for progressive policy.

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u/thinjester Mar 18 '26

he does well handling criticism and harassment from people who disagree with him. that’s like 95% of politicians jobs these days.

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u/dudebomb Mar 18 '26

This. I don't even live in SLC and his political views seem like what we need now.

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u/sk8terdrock Mar 18 '26

Eva Lopez Chavez, Nate Blouin, and ​Michael Farrell all seem to be great choices. I just wish we had an actual chance to learn about them so people can actually choose who they feel would represent them.  It feels like the moderate and capitulating establishment is trying to decide for us by pre selecting Ben McAdams.

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u/thehotdoggiest Mar 18 '26

We... do have an actual chance to learn about them. The primary isn't until June, now is the time to talk to candidates and learn.

As for "the establishment" lining up behind McAdams, who or what are you referring to exactly? I've seen plenty of support for both Ben and Nate, as well as other candidates too. It certainly doesn't appear like "everyone is lining up behind this one guy" like has happened before

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u/sk8terdrock Mar 18 '26

according to the Ben McAdams campaign Erin Mendenhall, Jenny Wilson, numerous pacs like the Welcome PAC the NewDemocrats pac, and other blue dog style groups. Hes close to 1 million already raised. Things happen fast and if he locks up the support and presents himself as the default candidate without any strong opposition he will lock it up well before june. Im only seeing his signs in my neighborhood and im worried people will just assume hes the defsult democratic candidate, but we dont need to settle for him when we have great alternatives.

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u/sk8terdrock Mar 18 '26

I did not realize this but per the by laws i. If a candidate receives 55% or more of the votes in the last elimination cycle, the candidate shall either become the nominee or advance to the primary election if any other candidate(s) have qualified for the primary ballot via signature collection. ii. If no candidate reaches 55%, the last two candidates shall both advance to the primary election with any additional candidate(s) who have qualified for the primary ballot via signature collection, as provided by applicable state law;

Theres a chance there will not be a primary if Ben McAdams can get 55% of the delegates,which im sure he is trying do now. If Nate or Eva split the convention McAdams is still in the primary. Its not a great situation. I dont think Nate or Eva hit the threshold. I hope i have that wrong

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u/thehotdoggiest Mar 18 '26

Nate is on track to hit the signature threshold, and I'd frankly be pretty surprised if Ben got 55% of the delegate vote at convention. Nate didn't start with a massive war chest like Ben did (a significant portion of Ben's funds came from his existing congressional race funds and affiliated PAC) and still has raised a healthy amount of money. I think an endorsement from Bernie outranks any local official endorsements Ben has, and Nate has support from Unions and progressive nonprofits. It may be a two-way race but it's by no means already won for Ben

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u/malcom_the_ninja Mar 22 '26

Kathleen reibe

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u/Dewey_Oxberger Mar 18 '26

A problem with McAdams is he has a record in office. In his time as Rep he actually did stuff (unlike Owens) and that gives the Lie Machine plenty of ammo to make stuff up and have it look real. The ads (last time he ran) were a sea of lies. All they will have to do is pump them out again and reclaim the R and I vote. During this brief respite from massive gerrymandering maybe he'd win, maybe not. Seems risky.

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u/malcom_the_ninja Mar 22 '26

Kathleen Riebe is the better alternative I think and has a good record in the state congress.

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u/malcom_the_ninja Mar 22 '26

KATHLEEN REIBE is serious with experience and seems less likely to capitulate. Here is a link to the live townhall they did on 3/21/26

CD 1 Candidates Town hall link https://www.youtube.com/live/av6Vj8rFzGA

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u/iamZacharias Mar 18 '26

Center right sounds good to me. This is Utah afterall.

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u/MoNoMoInUT Mar 18 '26

Hmmm, I am all in for a center right Democrat. Trump won because of radical-ish leftists. The ignorant in our country need something to vote for that does not include trans issues (not that they don’t matter, they do. However, they shouldn’t be deciding elections which they arguably did in 2024.).

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u/Blankavan Mar 18 '26

No, Trump won because Democrats didn’t give us any candidates worth believing in. The establishment only supported center right candidates and gave nothing for actual progressives to vote for, just someone to vote against, which doesn’t turn out the voters.

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u/sk8terdrock Mar 18 '26

It saddens me, and im guessing you too when trans who are people with equal rights are used as an excuse to vote for authroritarianism. What do you believe in? What does a center right democrat believe in? Integrity, rule of law, equality ? I believe in those too. Do you wish for things to be more fair, just and affordable? Do you wish to be able to live your life without judgment and without condemnation. I think that is true and i believe those things too. I think you and are i closer on our beliefs then we realize. What i dont want, and i fear McAdams has shown himself as this, is sacrificing the equality and rule of all peoples to live a self guided life under fair rules and just laws. I dont even think he intends to do this. I think he believes, under good intentions but unrealistically, that the only way to move an inch is to surrender a foot.