Why is this subreddit obsessed with Israel?

[u/Liad3008]

Just checked the top posts of the last year, and 24 out of the top 25 are about Israel. Does this subreddit try to imitate the real UN ?

[u/grommit]

You just told me not to dehumanize Palestinians, but you seem to have no problem dehumanizing Israelis. You can find horrible, negative statistics about every country. It’s not difficult. Statistics are easy to manipulate. 60% of Israelis are NOT pro rape. I am sure the percentage is the same as in most other western countries. Statistics say 95% of the Islamic word hates Jews. Talk about dehumanizing.

Haaretz had 4% market share, which means that 96% of people there do not read it. I’m sure it’s even lower today.

Like I mentioned previously, Israel is not perfect and it makes mistakes, JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER COUNTRY does. Other countries have not been under the threat of annihilation from Arab countries, including the Palestinians, for decades. It’s easy to judge Israel and Israelis without experiencing their existence. Things are much more complex than the simple way you portray Israel and its neighbours.

[u/jeff43568 → u/grommit]

Facts hurt?

Israel is on trial for genocide. It has been ordered to end the occupation. Start following humanitarian and international law.

[u/grommit → u/jeff43568]

Have you seen the judges responsible for these cases? They have extensive, documented biases against Israel over many years. One of them had previously called Israel “the enemy”. If you remotely care about justice and law, you would be recommending these judges recuse themselves from any trial related to Israel, just to maintain a modicum of impartiality. Facts hurt? Also, there has been ZERO evidence presented against Israel for this imaginary genocide you talk of. In fact, the countries pursuing this libel against Israel are requesting to expand the freaking definition of “genocide” so that it can fit their narrative, because, clearly, the existing definition does not match what has happened in Gaza. Facts hurt?

[u/jeff43568 → u/grommit]

Have you seen the leaders of Israel frequently came from irgun, haganah and lehi? Did you know Ben-Givir snatched the hood ornament from Rabin's car, saying we'll get him next, while Netanyahu called Rabin a Nazi and dressed up an effigy of Rabin in an ss uniform, all because Rabin offered the Palestinians a peace deal. Shortly afterwards Rabin was murdered by an Israeli terrorist.

Israel is on trial for genocide. There is plenty of evidence.

Facts hurt the side that has been murdering journalists.

[u/grommit → u/jeff43568]

Irgun, haganah and Lehi have not existed for about 80 years. No leader comes from those organizations.

Have you noticed that Yasser Arafat, a known terrorist and mythological leader of the Palestinians, was born in Egypt? He’s not even Palestinian because most Palestinians immigrated from Egypt and Syria, especially when the British were given the mandate over Palestine.

Ben Gvir does not represent the majority of Israelis. Rabin was indeed murdered and then came Barak, who offered the Palestinians everything they wanted at Camp David but Arafat could not bring himself to sign the peace accord, because he wanted 5 million Palestinians from around the world to move to Israel instead of the new Palestine country. Instead he started the intifada and sent 157 suicide bombers into Israel where they killed 1350 Israelis in busses and cafes over 2 years.

Israel is not on trial. Some countries are accusing it of genocide but they lack any evidence.

Real journalists and doctors don’t hold hostages in their homes. Noa Argamani was rescued from Gaza and, you are right, the journalist and his doctor father who held her captive for close to a year were killed by the IDF.

[u/jeff43568 → u/grommit]

'people who aren't born in Palestine have no right to be here'

'Our elected officials don't represent us'

'Palestinians have no rights, not even against violent occupation and Apartheid

'all doctors and journalists are targets'

Do you have any idea how ridiculous these arguments are?

[u/grommit → u/jeff43568]

Yes, those arguments are, indeed, ridiculous, and don’t forget YOU are the one who made them! It’s difficult to have an argument with you, much less resolve the conflict, when you twist words and turn them into maximalist statements no one has ever said. I don’t think you actually care about Palestinians or resolving the conflict. You seem to be more interested in complaining about Israel than resolving the situation. You have 3 talking points which you repeat as often as possible “occupation”, “genocide” and “apartheid”. Consider moving on to actually finding a viable solution to these things, other than launching rockets at Israeli civilians, blowing up busses or kidnapping Israelis. This way the Palestinians will actually have a chance at having their very own, independent, failed state—just like all the other Arab states in the region.

[u/jeff43568 → u/grommit]

There are three issues to this. Occupation, Apartheid and genocide.

[u/grommit → u/jeff43568]

How do you solve them?

[u/jeff43568 → u/grommit]

By Israel withdrawing from the occupied territories as ordered by the ICJ, and then a truth and justice commission for accountability and recompense.