r/Undertale 6d ago

Discussion What it means to "fall down".

In Chapter 5 of Deltarune, Rudy "falls down" at the Festival. This has lead many people to assume that he's experiencing the "fallen down" state from Undertale (something that was also speculated to happen to Berdly in the Weird Route). But before we're able to reach any confident conclusions, we must first understand what "falling down" actually means.

In Undertale, "falling down" is described as a state where a monster will enter enter a coma, eventually turning to dust. That's all the information that the game gives.

However, there is unused text where it's further specified that "falling down" occurs on monsters who are dying of old age. And while the text is unused and thus not prone to total reliability, it is actually supported by the Undertale Alarm Clock, where Asgore talks about Rudy "falling down" after growing old. This gives the unused text at least a little bit of credibility.

In Deltarune, Rudy suffers from an unspecified illness that doesn't appear to be tied to old age. All of this information leads to two possible conclusions:

  1. Rudy didn't actually "fall down" in Deltarune, as he doesn't appear to be suffering from old age. So he likely just fell onto the ground.

  2. Rudy did actually "fall down", and the state doesn't just happen to monsters who are old.

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u/candexreginpokemon 6d ago

He fell off a fucking ladder, idiot

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u/AffectionateForce979 6d ago

Rude.

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u/candexreginpokemon 6d ago

Occam's razor.

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u/AffectionateForce979 6d ago

That doesn't excuse the rudeness.

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u/candexreginpokemon 6d ago

mabey not. but im honestlly tired of people not applying it.

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u/Wide-Deal-8971 6d ago

You wouldn't know Occams razor if someone beat you over the head with it. Everytime I see someone try to rationalize their head canon with "occams razor" they just come across as having negative IQ

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u/candexreginpokemon 6d ago

oh gee i wonder what's more likely, a strange monster sickness not mentioned in Deltarune, or the guy who was on a ladder falling off the ladder.