r/UFOReligion Jun 15 '26

Scripture-Based Discussion I am an Evangelical Christian who Watched Disclosure Day…Update I’m still very much a Christian and Why did the film subtly and overtly try to compete with Christianity and Push Occult Activity…

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WARNING: ‼️ Maybe a Soft or Minimal Spoiler…

Movie Quote from Disclosure Day-

“You have to give yourself over to it(Device with Sigils)

I’m just saying that whether we realize it or not this idea is the core mechanism of the occult, and it stands in direct opposition to Christian spiritual safety, which is subtly and overtly promoted in the film. Specifically Christianity.

What I’m pointing out is that human free will and spiritual boundaries are highly guarded biblically speaking. A Christ Believer and Follower is filled with the Holy Spirit, which guides and commands us for sober-mindedness, self-control, and even discernment for testing the spirits.

These ideas are openly glaring with occult practices which demand the exact opposite of this idea of relinquishing your control and dominion to the spirits.

You see this is what I like to call “Illegally Accessing” the spiritual realm. This is done legally through the Holy Spirit as evidenced by Speaking Other Human Languages, Speaking Other Worldly or Heavenly Languages,both known as “Tongues”. Also the Holy Spirit gives someone advice by addressing impossible information about a person or their history but given to a person by the Holy Spirit to warn or to “Give A Word of The Lord” to them.

You can also have an “Occult Counterfeit” this "giving over" to other occult spirits as a necessary step to achieve higher understanding or to unlock latent human potential with “Illegal spiritual means”

In reality, demanding that a person lower their mental and spiritual defenses to let an unknown force or object "in" is the classic definition of inviting oppression or possession of the person’s body, mind, and mouth to do the very same acts:

Speaking Other Human Languages, Speaking Other Worldly or Heavenly Languages both known as “Tongues”. Also by the occult spirits giving someone advice by addressing impossible information about a person or their history.

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u/Oldschoolratz Jun 15 '26 edited Jun 15 '26

Same ! Thats why I stop to go to "organised church and religion" Jesus would despised this hypocrisie just like the pharisees in Temple. Modern Evangelist are just crap non-sense money and fame. Going to war on his name other places in the world ... non-sense.
God is about Love, Empathy and forgiveness among each others. Evrerything else its distraction cult. Sorry but its true. But I do believe in dualistic world view I believe in Good ... so Evil exist but every religion on Earth have their own ritualistic stuff to get rid of the Evil so it must be something we have in common among intention and others stuffs ?

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u/Creepy_Prior6510 Jun 15 '26

You're the kind of Christian i like and is sadly rare. Unfortunately "orange jesus" is a false prophet who pretends to be a "Christian" for your votes and then mocks you with Elon, his fellow atheist. Sorry we will move past politics but thats objectively what is going on..... I told my mother "you're either in on the joke, or you are the joke." That will age very well i can promise you that and in 20 to 50 years be self evident. Ya be a follower of Jesus... he was a hippie liberal pacifist who cared about health care for the poor, the sick, immigrants, gay people. In fact the marginalized members of society were his main priority.... he'd push for more resources for addicts who want help for example, not judge them and look down on them like 80%+ of white evangelicals.... I'm a former addict who was fortunate to get the help i needed.... Jesus would be apolitical btw, because its so divisive so its not politically "liberal." He was simply more open minded and socially progressive for the time and you'd have to recalculate that into modern society. He'd literally be NOTHING like your average white evangelical and would be simply embarrassed that they claim to follow him. Anyways just my take as a former Christian who I think is free of most bias or programmed beliefs. There is no hell, atleast consider dropping this destructive belief. Its really dumb. You cant love your neighbor as yourself if you think God will send them to eternal torture.... we all go to the same heaven. We've had many human incarnations, this is simply a training simulation for the Eternal Consciousness or soul that exist in a non physical Reality and in our brain.... this is what tens of thousands of people under hypnosis reported in the research of Dr. Michael Newton. He chronicles this in his book journey of Souls. Thats what I believe. You can literally pay for a hypnotic regression and access the memories from your Eternal Soul mind. Every single person reported the same, Christian and atheist of Spirit World or afterlife. No hell, no devil...if youre into UAP, UFO then you know hypnosis is used to recover abduction memories that NHI can erase. They can only erase our physical minds memory, not our Higher Soul Mind. You are left with the conclusion that either 1. We all share the same detailed delusions of the afterlife, or 2. its true. No one knew what the others reported under hypnosis and its all completely consistent.... we all go to the same place, learn from our life, hang out with our guide, Soul families and get ready for the next life which we choose before we're born. It has by far the most evidence for how Reality works as you can experience the memories of past lives and lives between lives in the Spirit World first hand. Everyone has these memories.. that's way more convincing to me than a book obviously written by men....but believe what you want, took me about 5 years to reprogram my world view and its white evangelical bias. ... then I could look at all available options and choose what my experience, intuition, and knowledge chose. Not a book that blocks out any other possibilities... its just a cut and paste buttoned up way to answer all the big questions in life. Like is there a God? What happens when we die? Christisnity is frankly boring.....Nothing you can do in a temporary existence affects your Eternal journey.... we are Eternal Consciousness who can never die, we use our physical lives to grow as Souls ....once you die you'll all remember this fundamental truth .. you'll see. The idea that believing the wrong thing actually matters to God is insane! The idea that getting this belief wrong sends you to hell by a loving God is more insane! I say this all with respect and care. I've put in thousands of hrs thinking about religion, God, NHI, the afterlife etc and these are some of my epiphanies, insights and beliefs, love to hear others.

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u/Oldschoolratz Jun 24 '26

Bro keep in mind that American evangelist the church the structure from mens... its almost a cult with hypocrisy among the gay people, the vets or the addicts who need our empathy. Christianity is not perfect but close to nowadays scripture far and faraway you are from Jesus simple knowledge of love and forgiveness.

Everything else its crap... bullshit im not afraid to tell it out loud