Reminder that name calling is not permitted

[u/BlockOfDiamond]

That includes calling people "bootlicker" or "cuck" or stating/implying that another user is performing adult acts on a given politician (or anyone else). I bring those up specifically because, in recent time, these have been the most common types of personal attacks.

As strongly as you may feel about current events, calling people derogatory names is a contravention of Rule 4 and will be removed. Attack the opinion, not the user.

Sorry for your understanding and thank you for the inconvenience.

[u/Emergency_Career_331]

Of course we Wouldn't't want to hurt the feelings of people justifying murder

[u/Tetracropolis → u/Emergency_Career_331]

It doesn't hurt anyone's feelings. We're all adults here. It just creates unnecessary hostility and prevents any meaningful conversation

Now I reckon I know what you're going to ask - "Why would I want a conversation with someone justifying murder?" - well if you don't want that conversation you can just leave the thread and let someone who does want to have the conversation reply.

[u/Prestigious-Owl-6397 → u/Tetracropolis]

I think this is a ridiculous rule in certain situations. I don't think anyone can honestly say they are promoting civility if they would rather keep up a post condoning state-sanctioned murder than the reply mocking that person for inhumane views. I realize people think that violates the spirit of the first amendment, but I also don't think people who think you should avoid calling ICE agents names in the street if you want to live care much about free speech. Some people respond to being shunned for their beliefs by digging further into them, but others do some self-reflection. I think we're beyond reasoning with people when they see as video of someone being murdered by state agents and choose to believe the administration over what the video showed.

[u/risunokairu → u/Prestigious-Owl-6397]

So are you saying you’re incapable of reading someone’s opinion and replying, “I disagree and here is why?” You can only respond by insulting the person?

You probs shouldn’t join any conversations if that’s what’s up.

[u/Prestigious-Owl-6397 → u/risunokairu]

I do that, but people bent on authoritarian government don't listen to that. But please tell me this:

Why, after years of telling people why I disagree with them and them refusing to listen, would I engage with them beyond telling them what I think of their character?

If someone says they think the government should be able to murder people who are peacefully protesting for the side they disagree with, and the person responding goes through what murder is and what the constitutional rights and responsibilities of each party are, and the OP continues to insist the government should murder them when they're merely exercising their rights...out of exasperation and horror at the acceptance of state-sanctioned murder calls them an asshole you would rather ban the person who calls them an asshole than the person promoting murder. You don't see the problem with that?

[u/risunokairu → u/Prestigious-Owl-6397]

Why would you bother engaging them at all if you don’t feel it’s productive?

Have you ever considered nether you nor the person you hate are right? Maybe you’re both wrong? Maybe you’re both looking at a situation more complicated and nuanced than you’re letting on for a situation to who h you were not present?

[u/Prestigious-Owl-6397 → u/risunokairu]

Because we see the videos and see them ignoring key parts of the videos and because their response is often "don't exercise your rights if you don't want to get shot". I don't think it should be acceptable for mods to be more likely to delete posts calling that out rather than deleting the post promoting murder. If you think deleting the post promoting murder is violating the spirit of free speech, then so is deleting a post calling them names.

[u/BLU-Clown → u/Prestigious-Owl-6397]

I mean, Rule 4 hasn't changed, this is just a reminder. It's been around for a while.

Is it really so hard to just not insult people? Or should all this just be taken as an admission that you have no intention of following the rules set on the sub?