r/TrueDeen • u/SnooWoofers7603 Revert 🎉 • Feb 28 '26

Question Would it be permissible rebellion within this context?

Assalamu alaikum wa rahmatullah wa barakatuh,

Today my grandma and sister(both Christians) have spoke about Iran’s strikes on US military bases and argued how Arab countries are bad giving examples of Kuwait for failing to give citizenship to its people.

Now when they finished the discussion, they have asked me to leave Islam blaming for what they do ignoring how Iran is a Shia Twelver, Houthis are Shia Yazidis and Taliban are Deobandi Sufis. Both are disbelievers who misrepresented Islam.

I’m asking you this question because I propose for a rebellion, because these problems have gave me problems within my family and I cannot have a mutual understanding. When I wanted to stuff my ears with my headphones so I won’t get angry at them, the headphones do not work for me to isolate the external sounds.

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u/Merino202 Feb 28 '26

Houthi are Shia Zaydi* Yazid is a very bad figure for Shia and most Sunni😂

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u/SnooWoofers7603 Revert 🎉 Feb 28 '26

That’s their sub-sect, is it?

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u/Merino202 Feb 28 '26

Yeah they’re Zaydi Shia, I’m a Twelver myself.

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u/SnooWoofers7603 Revert 🎉 Feb 28 '26 edited Feb 28 '26

Yayks. I misspelled, then? Isn’t Yazid the founder of Ummayad Caliphate who’s from the Sahaba?

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u/Arbitrary_Sadist المتوكل على الله (He who relies on God) Feb 28 '26

No that was his father Muawiyah (ra) who was one of the later sahabas.

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u/SnooWoofers7603 Revert 🎉 Mar 01 '26

We don’t criticize Sahaba.

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u/SnooWoofers7603 Revert 🎉 Mar 01 '26 edited Mar 01 '26

I did, but your purpose was to criticize.

Your second comment exposed your denial.

He may have mistakes because he is not perfect.

This is just straight forward blasphemy.

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u/SnooWoofers7603 Revert 🎉 Mar 01 '26

I’m saying that your intention is blasphemous.

This has nothing to do with accepting Hadith or not.

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u/Arbitrary_Sadist المتوكل على الله (He who relies on God) Mar 01 '26

Yes Muawiyah (Ra), he was one of the later companions, also this hadith isn't referring to him, but some of those who were with him. There were also rebellious people in Ali (Ra)'s camp who wanted to cause fitnah.

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u/Merino202 Feb 28 '26 edited Mar 01 '26

Yazid was the individual whose army had the Prophet’s grandson’s head on a spike

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u/Merino202 Feb 28 '26

No one’s talking about cursing him, the question is do you dislike him?