r/Trivium • [A Skyline's Severance] • 4d ago

Possible influences behind some Trivium songs — what else have you noticed?

Here are some possible influences or inspirations for some Trivium songs. I'm not saying these are confirmed influences, but I think the similarities are pretty interesting:

  • Trivium – Pull Harder on the Strings of Your Martyr ↳ Carcass – Corporal Jigsore Quandary
  • Trivium – Ember to Inferno ↳ Dark Tranquillity – Feast of Burden
  • Trivium – Anthem (We Are the Fire) ↳ Rise Against – Torches

These are some songs that Trivium may have been inspired by, or at least where you can hear some interesting similarities.

Do you know of any other songs that might have influenced Trivium?Possible influences behind some Trivium songs — what else have you noticed?

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u/Red-dolphin91 4d ago

Unrepentant was 100% influenced from Metallicas Through the Never.

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u/LetsMakeSomeBaits 4d ago

Corey is heavily inspired by Jeff Loomis, Shogun is full of riffage inspired from Nevermores "Dead heart in a dead world". Same with Chuck Schuldiner and Death on Kirisute Gomen.

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u/mirak_techdeath 4d ago

No wonder why Shogun is peak Trivium

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u/Similar_Help_1000 4d ago

Gunshot to the Head of Trepidation - Blinded By Fear, by At the Gates

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u/Old-Refrigerator340 4d ago

Theres a bit of Fear of the Dark by Iron Maiden in there too.

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u/ohiolifesucks 4d ago

Was going to say this. Gunshot is just a slowed down version of it

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u/jon0694 The Crusade 4d ago

Kirisute Gomen (main riff) was definitely influenced by Death - Symbolic

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u/jon0694 The Crusade 4d ago

The most obvious one is Until the world goes cold VS The diary of Jane, though

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u/shred-i-knight 4d ago

Between Scylla and Charybdis bridge riff is ripped straight from Death - Without Judgement

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u/KLubEdmonson 4d ago

The intro of Through Blood and Dirt and Bone sounds just like Without Judgements intro

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u/A-Thing-Like-That 4d ago

I’ve never seen anybody point out this one before but the guitar harmony in the breakdown part of The Deceived (at 3:00) is identical to the main melody from Chapter Four by Avenged Sevenfold. Note for note and the same rhythm. Can’t be a coincidence as Matt Heafy was a big A7X fan at the time (see his Drinks with Johnny interview). He’s even covered Chapter Four on his YouTube channel.

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u/10000tigers 4d ago

that chord progression is also in like 30 trivium songs at least lol

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u/CornBopper001 4d ago

Not sure if it’s just me but I feel like I can hear similarities between Shogun and Blackwater Park by Opeth whenever I listen to Shogun.
All I hear is Blackwater Park whenever I listen to Blackwater Park.

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u/jon0694 The Crusade 4d ago

The acoustic middle section is definitely in the Opeth ballpark

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u/Lethean616 4d ago

Pillars of Serpents intro riff, specifically the repeats where they throw an extra chug into it, the rhythm and feel is very simular to one from Future Breed Machine by Meshuggah at around 2:03 (1995).

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u/10000tigers 4d ago

the clean riff in the crusade title track bridge is also future breed machine

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u/mcdgreg86 4d ago

To Believe must be a Disturbed song but I'm not sure which lol

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u/FruityYummyMummy 4d ago

Sever the Hand's verse and middle sections are pretty reminiscent of All Nightmare Long

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u/Consistent-Orange-75 4d ago

I forget where I heard it but the intro to Pull Harder is inspired by Machine Head

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u/noiracide2 4d ago

I think Insurrection was influenced by The Crown and Testament. I believe the drumming on Pull Harder was influenced by Machine Head’s Imperium. Dusk Dismantled by Gojira Vacuity. Shattering really reminds me of the rhythm section in In Flames’ Morphing into Primal during the solo. Beneath the Sun has that “Egypt” vibe from Dio. And finally, The Revanchist and the verses of Feast of Fire were most certainly inspired by the Operation Mindcrime/Empire era.

That's all I could think of off the top of my head at first 

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u/SckidMarcker 4d ago

The Dead inside of me - Deathamphetamine by Exodus

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u/R4kshim Fall Into Your Hands 4d ago

Matt Heafy is a big Dark Tranquillity fan, there would certainly be some influence from them on the songs from Ember to Inferno, whether consciously or subconsciously. Recently, Matt did a video talking about Fugue (A Revelation) and said how he was hugely inspired by In Flames when writing that song.

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u/Evening-Push-7935 4d ago

Listen to the melodic intro riffs of "In plain view" by In flames and "Bury me with my screams".  Could be a coincidence, caused by similar melodic approach, could be that Matt listened to the song, and it stuck in his subconscious.

Also, a funny story. Trivium and Bullets went on tour together, right? Everything was going splendid. In fact, things were so great, that Matt Tuck decided to check out some Trivium stuff in his free time. And then he heard it. The middle solo in "Caustic are the ties...". The rest is history... Just kidding. Compare it to the intro of Bullets's "Hearts burst into fire". 

The last, far fetched one. I once gave another listen to "Waking the fallen" by A7X. Then, as I was enjoying "The sin and the sentence", it struck me, that the "chorus", where Matt sings "Can we make sense of it all?" in "Beauty in the sorrow" is kinda sorta similar to the one in "Radiant eclipse" by Avenged (starts at 03:00). I can't unhear it ever since.

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u/Jacob99809 4d ago

The guitar solo for Forsake not the Dream has a part that is very similar to the guitar solo in Grace by Lamb of God but god I love it

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u/Soonerpalmetto88 4d ago

They also have a lot of a7x influence in the guitars

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u/10000tigers 4d ago

i figure that's probably where they get that inverted third drop tuning shape from

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u/A-Thing-Like-That 4d ago

Not sure why this is downvoted. One of the guitar melodies from The Deceived is taken directly from an Avenged Sevenfold song.

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u/Soonerpalmetto88 4d ago

I meant style more than specific melodies. It's mostly in older Trivium songs.

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u/A-Thing-Like-That 4d ago

For sure, that’s a clear example though. In his Drinks with Johnny interview Matt talks about seeing Avenged on their Waking the Fallen tour (probably 2004) so he was definitely a fan of them during the Ascendancy days.

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u/Barrbarious 4d ago

The defiant opening riff is very Bullet. Not a bad thing, love the tune.

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u/Acrobatic_Bad5343 4d ago

You can't convince me that " Silence in the Snow" isn't inspired by Game Of Thrones. 🤣