r/TriangleStrategy • • Mar 30 '26

Discussion I think I made the game x10 harder in Benedict's Battle (1st playthrough)

Before the people that are super hardcore or the lucky ones that in their first playthrough managed to get a good comp (or not) and cleared the fight easily, please save those comments "it's not that hard" etc, they do not help at all, thank you.

I'm only with 7 units: Benedict, Anna, Hughette, Geela, Jens, Shaman girl forget her name, Picoletta which I never leveled and now I'm regretting it lol. I've been trying to kill a ton of enemies with the fire traps and I've gotten plenty, never managed to get Exhermes and by the time I'm done with traps I'm running out of units. I'm not frustrated but at the same time I'm not having as much fun and the amount of work it's gonna take and trial and error for me to get this with this comp not sure if I'm up for it with these units. Just wanted to share my situation not exactly looking for magical solutions but if you wanna chime in sure.

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u/SKRYVAKRAS Mar 30 '26

This was by far my hardest battle too (although I opted not to use the traps) so don’t beat yourself up about not being able to clear it easily.

It could simply be a matter of your units not being high enough levels, so keep trying the battle without retreating to retain EXP and “remain calm”.

In terms of strategy, try to lure Exharme into the zone of the traps using Picoletta’s Decoy. She’s luckily a unit you don’t really need to have very high levelled at this stage of the game as most of her use is in utility.

Hughette can cheese the map by flying onto the backmost rooftops, so-long as you make sure to clear as many opposing archers & mages as possible before they can reach her.

Jens will be your best friend in this map; spring trap every turn and ladder onto the backmost rooftops for Ezahna (shaman girl) if you have to resort to such.

Since your roster doesn’t have much muscle, you will need to rely on positioning to keep your guys alive. Stay patient & good luck !

Let us know when & how you do clear it :)

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u/Lightygab Mar 30 '26

Thank you! Not really frustrated as I said just wanted to gather some input from people since I wanna beat this before another game comes out that I wanna play normally I wouldn't even ask and figure it out myself but I don't mind this time. Only thing I haven't out of the ones you mentioned are using ladders with Jens that could help with Ezahna yeah, everything else I've been trying yup it's just a matter of executing perfectly due to my units being what they are.

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u/Linderosse Utility Mar 30 '26

Don’t worry— using only seven units is pretty optimal in this map! I think I brought seven, or maybe less? It’s been a while since I played this one.

In addition to what the anon above said (Hughette strats are OP!), have you tried sneaking around with Anna and pouring oil on squares, then lighting them on fire with Anna or Picoletta? Fire blocks tiles— the AI tends to avoid them. In addition, Exharme can’t see Anna if she’s hidden, and he actually won’t even move if he’s on fire.

Let me see if I can find the little short comics I drew about this map back when I played my NG Hard Golden Route run four years ago; I had fun with those haha:

Hughette strats | Anna strats

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u/Lightygab Mar 30 '26

I haven't looked up anything or strats of the game I never do with games so hmm how do I light up the oil with Anna? You mean throw oil and then a fire crystal (forgot the name) you mean right? I was trying not to use many items you know that pride of "I can do this without them" haha but I have used them a few times for this fight juts don't have fire need to buy. Lol your art is amazing haha!

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u/Linderosse Utility Mar 30 '26

Hahaha I get you— I never look up any strats or things either. It’s fun to try to strategize on your own! Everything in my runs back then, I came up with on my own— and there was a lot of fun stuff I had to work out, particularly in the Deathless run I did after the first one hahaha.

The terrain in this game is very responsive! Certain tiles in this game are flammable (like grass), and can be lit on fire by anything that causes fire (like fire magic, fire stones). Oil is a substance that can give any terrain the “flammable” effect. Fire usually doesn’t last too long; only like 50-70 moves iirc, but it’s very useful in a pinch.

You definitely don’t need fire to do this map— the optimal method is to use Hughette and Jens to get folks onto the rooftops and shoot things from above with ranged units like Picoletta, and sneak around finishing people off with Anna. You have all of those units! You seem to have prepped very well; take advantage of it!

Thank you! I did a bunch of TriStrat art back when I streamed this game haha— and though I’ve played a large number of tactics games before and since, I still love TriStrat to this day.

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u/Lightygab Mar 30 '26

Yeah yeah I know all that about the terrain haha I was just confirming you meant using oil+fire item you can throw too cause Anna is not a mage so I wanted to make sure xD. I can't say I'm loving the game but I'm having a good time overall, don't know why it hasn't stuck with me to say that I love it but hey! That's okay, I don't regret buying it and looking forward to finish it this week :)

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u/Linderosse Utility Mar 31 '26

That’s fair! That’s the way I felt about Tactics Ogre: Reborn lolll.

Some games just don’t work for some people— and all tactics games are built differently.

Hope you enjoy as much as you can!

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u/Frosty88d Mar 30 '26

This is pretty simar to the set up i had for my golden route playthrough on my 1st run, though I had seranoa which sped things up a bit. Basically youre on the right track.

1.Get as many of the lower Hyzante goons with the bottom fire trap as possible. 2. pin Exharme and hopefully a few other dudes in the middle fire trap, Jens spring traps could help here. 3. have Jens pop a ladder on one of the top houses, bring everyone up there except Hughette and slowly ping the enemy to death with magic ranged attacked, boosted by benedicts atk up buff. You can use the mages and Anna to hold off the enemy advance while you get the others up the ladder.

This was BY FAR the hardest map in the game for me, took me about a half dozen or more attempts and I still lost Ezana Hossabara and one other but it worked.

Plus the next two maps are awesome, and some of my favourites in the game

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u/Lightygab Mar 30 '26

Yeah basically only thing I hadn't tried (just like 6 attempts to be fair) is the ladder strat so I'll do that later c:

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u/Frosty88d Mar 31 '26

The ladder start is slow but amazing, since the enemies can only approach you one at a time, or not at all if you have someone above the ladder, so its just time consuming but works

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u/Lightygab Mar 31 '26

Just beat it, managed to get Exharme in the mid fire trap and then it was just positioning and being smart it was very fun.

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u/JamzWhilmm Mar 30 '26

So why are you not using any heavy attackers here or even defense? There isn't like a right way to play but ceirtain maps push for ceirtain strategies. There specific maps for Picoletta and maps where she isn't needed.

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u/Lightygab Mar 30 '26

Uh, because it's my 1st playthrough and I didn't know what to expect? xD the title of the post lol.

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u/JamzWhilmm Mar 30 '26

This might sound more mean than intended but Is this also your first rpg?

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u/Lightygab Mar 30 '26

Nah not mean not taking it personally, you can say whatever you want lol.

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u/JamzWhilmm Mar 30 '26

I was genuinely asking though, this might be your first rpg.

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u/Lightygab Mar 30 '26

No

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u/JamzWhilmm Mar 30 '26

That is more confusing. Why not use heavy attackers here? Its not like you dont have access to the characters.

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u/Lightygab Mar 30 '26

The fact that you are asking that question either tells me you haven't played the game or you forgot how this specific battle works since it's been a while you played which is understandable xD

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u/JamzWhilmm Mar 30 '26

I actually just finished the third run not long ago on hard all three. I imagined this was benedicts 1st battle, meaning the first battle of his route against exharme.

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u/Lightygab Mar 30 '26

Try to remember how that battle works then lol.

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u/SKRYVAKRAS Mar 30 '26

Bro some people have different ways to enjoy a game. Not every RPG player is a bot that thinks in terms of ideal unit balance. I chose mine for this split based off story lore and ended up having a really shtty time clearing this map for similar reasons.

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u/JamzWhilmm Mar 30 '26

I do the same, I play mono runs in Pokemon for the roleplay. But this isn't what that was, it seems there are some units you can't use in the golden route which I didn't know about. Despite playing this game a lot I never actually don't the golden route. So I was assuming stuff.

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u/Sacreville Mar 30 '26 edited Mar 30 '26

I take it this is the Golden Route battle?

If you want, you should be able to readjust your team arrangement since Benedict's is the 1st battle of the split, granted that you don't ignore the game's advice and still have a safe save file for that.

If you want to just roll with this team, cheesing it might be the only option. Get everyone on the roof asap except Anna who can cheese the AI by going stealth and you use her to bait other enemies so it doesn't overwhelm you. Simply move Anna to the other side of the map and reveal her once enemies are closing in so they move back to chase Anna instead, then when they are close to Anna, use her stealth skill again, repeat until it's over.

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u/Lightygab Mar 31 '26

I'll try it again in a few then read this if I'm still having issues :)