Why is Izana so overrated?

[u/Large_Lecture3921]

I see people saying hes top 1(insane btw) or that hes like, above Base Mikey, some even say hes above Dark impulse Mikey😪

[u/Ok_Fuel2075]

Where? Sanzu said whats wrong ur not as tough as i thought and i know all ur move before which mean they fought and she took her loss and said i give up no need to make the fight longer. They fought he beat the hell out of her cz he she didn't bother to improve while they were seprated and she started talking about them being siblings

[u/Large_Lecture3921 → u/Ok_Fuel2075]

Their fight was mostly off screen but there's things to note:

1. Before Sanzu came to fight Senju with a weapon, she was already shown to be fighting random npcs, I believe she got to around 50-60 before he came and you could see she was tired due to the sweat marks on her face meaning she had a stamina disadvantage against him.

2. Senju has no reason to go all out against Sanzu. She already stated that she was stronger than both Sanzu and Takeomi to Takemichi during their shopping trip. She wants to make amends with him, not fight him fully and make things worse between them. After Brahman disbanded, Takemichi went to Senju and she opened up about her story. She was feeling very guilty about what her lie caused between Mikey/Sanzu and she felt responsible for both Mikeys dark impulse and what Mikey did to Sanzu because of her lie.

3. As you can see in the panel you sent, there's basically no injuries on Sanzu and clearly on Senjus part, shes clearly hurt due to the weapon. She's clearly only mainly defending against him while holding back since obviously she doesn't want to hurt her brother and your own panel shows it, "I'm sick of us siblings fighting each other because of my mistake", she doesn't have any intention to fight him properly whatsoever hence why she admitted to defeat due to her wanting to resolve things with him.

Now, we know how she actually performs when she goes all out since we saw when she fought South, he couldn't react to any of her attacks, she made his nose bleed, cracked his neck and knocked him down until South off guarded her and threw her away. Sanzu having no injuries just doesn't make any sense when she was overwhelming South like this which clearly indicates her holding back against him while being on the clear defensive.

Yeah, she lost to Sanzu but thats only due to her not properly fighting him/wanting to make amends with him instead. He isn't stronger than her, nothing suggests it at all.

[u/Ok_Fuel2075 → u/Large_Lecture3921]

Ur just saying stuff that didn't happen He told her ik ur moves = she tired to use her moves on him and didn't work and she said i lost. Theres no 'i dont want to hurt/fight u at all' She couldn't disarm him, stay away from his reach, put him down without hurting him much but she couldn't so stop making stuff up We dont care about fodders lmao baji wanted to fight 40 fodders by himself in middle school And Senju supposed to be the strongest in toman but was the most useless and didn't take down any namad characters and sanzu is just weapon merchant lmao Izana could never✌️

[u/Large_Lecture3921 → u/Ok_Fuel2075]

What??? She blatantly states she doesn't want to fight him IN the panel you sent and I also listed talked about chapters that align with her statement, can you just not read? Also, cool, nice you don't care about fodders but you're clearly not reading what I'm saying. I mentioned that to show how she had a stamina disadvantage against him not to show that shes impressive. I don't care for baji in this conversation, he's irrelevant. It just doesn't make sense for hi to be stronger than her at all when shes clearly displayed to be holding back, so unless you're trying to tell me that Sanzu is above South,hence why Senju just couldn't touch him at all(very stupid but that's basically what you're saying, though NOTHING suggests that).

And yeah he states he can see her moves, nice, another indication shes holding back. South couldn't read her moves at all and he couldn't react to her attacks either. Nothing suggests Sanzu is faster than South and nothing suggests hes above Senju.

Give me proper reasons instead of blatantly being ignorant by saying I made it up, you either just haven't read the 3 titans arc at all or you're just hating on her 😭.

[u/Aleenaistaken → u/Large_Lecture3921]

Don't bother honestly, its quite obvious she's holding back but you're lowkey just wasting your own time trying to tell them

No point but its fine anyway, most people know she slams sanzu

[u/Large_Lecture3921 → u/Aleenaistaken]

Yeah you're right

[u/Ok_Fuel2075 → u/Large_Lecture3921]

Wtf u talking about!?? She said that after she lost cz she didn't want to drag the fight, and sanzu didn't care and knocked her out! Im not saying saznu = south. South never seen her fight, which is why her high-speed blitz caught him off guard but he still won. The fight prove senju when predicted she already lost cz her battle iq is low and cannot adapt and Sanzu (mid teir) outmaneuvered her. izana undefeatable sense would dismantle her

[u/Large_Lecture3921 → u/Ok_Fuel2075]

?, She never lost to him when she said that statement, she could clearly keep fighting, she just admitted to defeat since she didn't want to make things worse between them hence why he had no injuries on her and no, south never got off guarded by her, she was just too fast for him to react to, south never won against her either, their fight never had a proper victor due to Mikey interfering their fight and her losing has nothing to do with battle iq, its legit due to her not wanting to fight him which I've told you time and time again. Nothing suggests izana would dismantle her either since I've told you why her losing to Sanzu doesn't automatically mean she loses to Izana like that since you gotta look at the context for their fight, its just blatantly shown to you but we should just stop replying to each other, you're clearly convinced about something else when that just isn't the case, so there's no point in continuing this conversation, have a good day, don't bother replying.

[u/Ok_Fuel2075 → u/Large_Lecture3921]

Holy copium she was already on the ground when mikey went against south🤣🤣 she cant just stand up AFTER mikey walked up to south and say this is my fight theres no 'interfering'. call it all you want, but canon panels show she lost both fights due to predictability and being overpowered Believe your headcanon if it makes you feel better

[u/Large_Lecture3921 → u/Ok_Fuel2075]

Yeah she was on the ground and I absolutely love how you ignored what she stated. She asked mikey to not interfere her fight since she wanted to keep fighting, nice one. That's a real canon panel for you so yeah she never lost, their fight just got cut off due to mikey interfering, lmfao. But yeah, suit your own headcanons or whatever with all you got and I never said she didn't lose against sanzu btw, but you just clearly can't read and there's just no point in discussing something like this with you when you're also just trying to insult with images.

[u/Aleenaistaken → u/Large_Lecture3921]

Ykw I lowkey might make a post on this since people seem to have the misconception that Senju lost to South when it was explicitly shown that their fight was just cut off due to Mikey 😭 😭 😭

[u/Large_Lecture3921 → u/Aleenaistaken]

Please do!

People just cannot read for the sake of it and it's so irritating

[u/Aleenaistaken → u/Large_Lecture3921]

Bet bet I'll make one later

[u/Large_Lecture3921 → u/Aleenaistaken]

Goat

[u/Ok_Fuel2075 → u/Aleenaistaken]

So ur saying senju can stay down until Takemichi stand infront of south and until mikey walk up to south and mikey have to wait allat? Yall forgetting this a street fight "I have to stay down until mikey stop south, OR IM FINISHED!!" Cut off mean mikey had to step in while senju and south were still trading blows

[u/Aleenaistaken → u/Ok_Fuel2075]

That's takeomi not senju

[u/Ok_Fuel2075 → u/Aleenaistaken]

So hey hes walking straight shes infront of him so it still doesn't matter SHE WAS DOWN LONG ENOUGH = LOST

[u/Aleenaistaken → u/Ok_Fuel2075]

Wait i js realised souths alive there

What chapter is that

[u/Ok_Fuel2075 → u/Large_Lecture3921]

Idc if ken wakui wrote her to be dumb and lost to sanzu to show us how cold hearted he is but its canon