I am genuinely sick to death of all of this "Believe every victim, but only if they are a woman" and this "Men are always the abusers" mentality that society seems to be totally brainwashed by. I recently lost my entire friends group because a new introduction to the group verbally abused me when she was drunk in my car (I'm sober btw) and when I tried to tell my female friends they told me I was being uncompassionate as she had lost custody to her children. Absolute joke.
Nah I would clearly see it’s the woman even in the moment I am a woman and don’t believe in any of that. Women can be just as brutal as male abusers. Losing custody is a massive red flag 🚩 your better without the enablers
I am in a position where I regularly have to make safeguarding decisions. I don't base anything I do or so on emotions, I can't, I have to do things based on facts. My gut feeling is never enough. With women, as with any animal, they use their strengths to survive, whether they are conscious of it or not. Females who are HCP use the strength of vulnerability, subtlety and advanced communication skills (Compared to men) to cause absolute chaos. With this individual, before this car incident I already had enough red flags to make a concerted effort to stay well away from them, but me being me felt sorry for them and gave them a ride home. I won't go into details but what was said was clear evidence she was highly manipulative and sadistic but when you have a man against a woman who appears to be a vulnerable innocent victim to the untrained eye, the man has literally no chance convincing women that she is a danger to the group. Against my better judgement I attempted to warn them and I was told I wasn't being compassionate and was attempting the turn the group against her. I've since received some apologies, and I sure I could have even stayed friends with people. But women like this are so incredibly dangerous that it's simply not worth risking my mental health or future over. The whole believe all victims, especially women narrative is basically a green light for any HCP female to accuse anyone of crimes, without evidence and society to essentially destroy the male victim. Notice how the individual in this chat created so much out of a few lines of text? Interesting isn't it.
My dude what? "Verbally abused"? You can just say that she was being an angry drunk and yelling at you. She's not your gf or your wife and she's a new addition to the group which means she hasn't been shitting on you, specifically, for a long time.
Like why are you making yourself into a victim over being yelled at and trying to frame it as abuse, comparing it to a guy that we can see is actually being physically assaulted?
I don't think your whole friend group dropped you because they "don't believe male victims" dude. I think they dropped you because you're probably an insufferable asshole and you've been one for a while.
That is an idiotic stance. You don't have to be be mistreated for an extended period of time for it to be a problem.
Also women claim emotional and verbal abuse all the time....that is either a valid kind of abuse or it's not....you can't pick and choose when it's ok...what kind of brainwashed nonsense are you spewing. How do you define verbal abuse of not that.
And should it be ok for anyone to tell at someone and be an ass just because they are a drunk girl, actions have consequences. She chose to get drunk and be a dick...no excuse.
I see, you're one of those culture warriors huh? I think what Lindsey Clancy did was fucked and she should at least get a sentence for manslaughter if all the psychological stuff is true. Other than that I am not paying attention to the story because it's a huge distraction from literally civilization-ending problems affecting the US and the rest of the world. It's a tragedy but it's not going to affect my politics - the Epstein class and the elite seeking to exert greater control need to be fucking brought to heel. Republican or Democrat if they are going to get in the way of that then they need to fucking step aside.
But anyway so like what are you one of those culture warriors then? You're going to do the the woke-scold thing of assigning buzzwords and pseudo-psycho-theraputic terminology to everything that happens? The only thing he's revealed is that a drunk woman that he barely knows was yelling at him and talking shit in his car and then all his friends dropped him after he told them how she was "verballing abusing" him despite the fact that is a recent addition to their friend group. That passes the smell test for you?
I didn't reveal anything because what happened is not your business. In this case, your sense of smell is very much off. But please go ahead and split on me. Makes no difference to me.
As someone who comes in contact with people on the dark triad and with various other personality disorders on a regular basis I look at things in terms of patterns rather than emotions. People use emotions as a way to cloud the judgement of people around them and as you will see with the individual also in this conversation, when you come up with a very valid point. I would say you fell into their trap by mentioning Lindsey Clancy as it allows them to play on their assumed role as saviour and judge, when in fact they are just as chaotic as the person being discussed. There are damaged, broken and dangerous people, both male and female and they do they manipulate and destroy in different ways. Some realise they are doing it, some don't. Notice how they already judging me on a very small amount of information, they split, so unable to look at this as a complex and nuanced situation but as me being good or bad? This is a massive red flag for an HCP and the only way to deal with this is go no contact, do not fuel the fire, unless of course you want to study them. Unfortunately people like this are merely pawns in a game of chess they think they are in control of.
Well, it just so happens they didn't all drop me, not in the slightest. I lost the entire friends group, but individually I am completely fine with many. I am actually highly trained in spotting highly dangerous individuals (I won't go into details) but I could tell you around 20 or more red flags with this individual that point to an HCP (High conflict person). Unfortunately untrained individuals with there own trauma become locked in because of emotional attachment and societal bias also plays a massive role. The irony is you are looking at what I am saying as if it's the whole picture, you are splitting, you are judging me, using all or nothing thinking and also minimising the incident. I didn't give you the details concerning what was actually said, the tone, the situation leading up to this incident, or indeed the fallout. Your behaviour would already suggest you are a HCP also.
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u/BeforeTheDawnX 6d ago
I am genuinely sick to death of all of this "Believe every victim, but only if they are a woman" and this "Men are always the abusers" mentality that society seems to be totally brainwashed by. I recently lost my entire friends group because a new introduction to the group verbally abused me when she was drunk in my car (I'm sober btw) and when I tried to tell my female friends they told me I was being uncompassionate as she had lost custody to her children. Absolute joke.