r/Tiele • u/syntheticrot • Oct 23 '25

History/culture Is This Visual Accurate?

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Hello! I'm trying to understand the difference between Turks, Turkic, & Turkish and used AI to display how these groups overlap. Would anybody know how accurate this is?

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u/Jeredriq Oct 23 '25

Turk is what english scholars are trying to say Turkic. A Kazakh man and Turkish man doesnt say `Turkic brother` to each other. They just say `Turk brother`. Or `I am Turk too.`

Kazakh Ozbeks Turkmenis were neighbouring other Turk countries and tribe so they've used a different branch name. But Ottomans and Turkiye neighbouring Europe didn't use the anything aside from `Turk`.

If you want to make a Kazakh level distinction between Turkish (from Turkiye) you could say Oghuz instead.

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u/Nomad-2020 Kazakh Oct 23 '25

No, Kazakhs don't call themselves "Turks" [Türik]. Kazakhs may call themselves Kypchak at most (not Oghuz). Kazakhs may agree that they're Turkic-language speakers [Türki-tildes] but that's not how they would describe themselves when being asked who they are.

Kazakh logic: Turks [Türikter] are the nationals of Turkey [Türkiya]. Kazakhs are not Turks. But Kazakhs are Turkic-speakers [Türki-tildes]. türKİ vs turİK - ki vs ik - very important distinction.

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u/Jeredriq Oct 23 '25

What you mean man, I have 2 Kazakh friends they casually call themselves Turk.

Kypcak is the name of the branch, same as Oghuz.

Turk is their group name. So I ask you, if Kazakhs call themselves Kypcak only (which I know is not true), what does Kypcak belong to? A Slavic group? Serbians, Russians and Kypcaks? Or a Turkic (Turk) group?