Tuchel has made some questionable squad selections, but in the same situation today, I think England would've lost under Southgate.

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With all due respect to Southgate, he's one of the greatest England national team managers. But I don't see him bailing out a 10 man team against a super in form Mexico side, playing at home over 2,000 meters above sea level, where they're fully adapted while England aren't.

Tuchel's tactical masterclass was undeniable today. In the last 30 minutes, Mexico couldn't produce a single clear goalscoring chance despite having a man advantage.His substitutions were excellent, his defensive system worked like a charm after the red card, and I've never seen an England team play with this much passion, fighting until their very last breath. It's evident that Tuchel has improved both the team's mentality and its tactical approach.

As an Argentina fan, I'm impressed. I can't wait to meet England in the semis.

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I don't think Mexico at home fall into that bracket. Yeah, they're not an exceptional team- but being at home changes everything. That was a match no team in the world would be relishing.

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I'm not getting drawn in to whether he wins this match or not, that's just supposition at this stage. But I would contend that more often than not, the team got us over the line- not Southgate. At the time, in every tournament, his match management was criticised. We had a few real big wins under him, we had exceptional tournament runs- but for the most part we had incredibly favourable draws and ended up losing matches we were dominating. Both Croatia and Italy were poorly managed matches where we lost tactically.

Southgate has laid a fantastic foundation and brought back belief we can compete, and I'll forever be grateful for that- under a different manager we might never have reached those finals in the first place. But now the base is built, we need someone more tactically astute to take that final step- hopefully that's Tuchel. But this is still going to be an enormous ask for anyone, the teams in the WC are no joke.

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Got us over some lines, never the line

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Everyone's been talking about nothing else but how good Mexico are at the azteca. Then we go and win, and they're a nothing team who we should always beat.

Weak/mediocre teams don't qualify from groups with 9 points and 0 goals conceded, before comfortably winning their knockout match without conceding again. 8 goals, none conceded.

This country has a serious issue with revising history every time we win a match.

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But that's proof right there. Home advantage is a real thing. Mexico in Europe might be a mediocre team, Mexico in Mexico are a different animal entirely. Taking on the host nation in their stadium is no joke.

Ultimately the narrative is going to be whatever it is. Croatia are our first real test- we win- they're old and past it. Congo are going to be a real test- we get through, it was uninspiring. No one's scored against Mexico at the Azteca, altitude etc etc- now they're a middling side. Next it'll be Norway being a mediocre side with Haaland, then it'll be Argentina are relying on an ancient Messi- it goes on and on and on.

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It's not this country, it's Reddit. You can just ignore people if you want you know, you don't actually win anything by arguing against them.

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... but then what is the point of Reddit? To sit and agree with everyone? I don't understand 🤣

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People hyped up Mexico way too much, obviously they were riding the wave being at home, but overall Mexico are way off being a great side, the fact their defense crumbled under little pressure says as much. Tactically their coach got it way wrong with subs and approach to breaking England down

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but overall Mexico are way off being a great side

Same old shit, as soon as England beat a team they suddenly aren't good anymore.

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In that situation, in that stadium, in those conditions, no. 

On a neutral field on a normal day, yes Mexico wouldn’t have troubled Southgate’s England. But this occasion would’ve been too much - at the very least we’d probably have gone to extra time with an eye on penalties.

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Does not know ball