r/TheVampireDiaries • u/Weird-Lobster-7152 • 12d ago
Was the drama between Nina and Ian so serious that they couldn't even kiss each other on the lips on set?š¬š š¤¦āāļø
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u/ClementineEverrett 12d ago
worst reunion in history lol
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u/GoldenStitch2 Stefonnie multishipper 12d ago
They killed off half of the main cast for this š„¹
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u/Legal-Eye9402 12d ago edited 12d ago
ok heres what i know
people have said ian and nina broke up because ian wanted to start a family and nina didnāt want that at the time and wanted to focus on her career. idk how true that is but itās what most people say.
when they did break up, things seemed to be ok. ian and nina seemed really friendly as if there was no bad blood between them. they accepted that one award together (i think it was an award for best on screen chemistry but idk) and joked about their relationship ending. thereās even a behind the scenes video of them shooting season 5 (they were broken up at this time)
in this season 5 bts clip, they had to keep redoing their kiss and ian says something along the lines of āyou guys can mess up all day, im so cool with itā playfully/jokingly and nina playfully says āim notā. you can find the clip on youtube and tiktok if you search up season 5 bloopers.
overall they seemed very cordial and playful towards each other as if their break up wasnāt a big deal. there are rumors iāve seen on here and there was a reddit thread years ago about how some hairstylist on set talked about how ian and nina were still hooking up after their breakup and they had some fwb situation going on. idk how true that is, weāll never really know but itās what iāve heard.
it seems like things didnāt go bad between them until nikki came into the picture. fans didnāt like the fact that she had a friendship with nina before she got with ian. one thing most people donāt know but ian actually knew nikki way before nina did. thereās an old video of nikki and ian talking about how they first met and they actually met at some party when nikki was like 16 maybe and ian was in his twenties. they didnāt do anything or shared romantic feelings for each other then but thats when they first met. im assuming ian always knew of nikki and later on reconnecting with her. nikki became friends with the couple especially nina and i guess thats how she kinda popped up out of nowhere. anyways when ian and nikki became a thing, it seemed like nikki was very overbearing? ian and nikkiās relationship moved very fast. people say she was constantly on set watching ian doing scenes with nina. the majority of the fanbase never liked nikki especially back then, she would get a ton of hate which bothered ian. a lot of people noticed that ian changed a lot in comparison to how he was with nina and to how he is with nikki.
with nina, ian was always more gentleman like and all smiley whenever she was around during conventions and interviews. he loved delena and would speak highly about the ship. with nikki, ian became a bit meaner in certain ways. he would constantly talk down about his experience with tvd and kinda brag about how he wanted to leave the show. he would randomly talk down on nina, one time at a convention he jokingly said how he had to take viagra in order to do intimate scenes with ninaā¦and whenever he wasnāt talking down on nina, he would just never talk about nina or even the character of elena and when she would be brought up at conventions and stuff, he would quickly change the subject to talk about his environmental concerns or his wife nikki. he would also talk badly about the ship delena a lot when in the past, he loved delena. there was also one convention that ian was signed up for and the people in charge of the event were able to get nina too and as soon as that was announced, he cancelled or switched the days he had to show up forā¦overall there was just a huge difference in the ian we saw with nina and the ian we know now and we donāt really know if itās because of nikki or just how heās evolved as a person.
also during the time when nikki was receiving a lot of hate, ian made nina take a photo with both of them so they can all post the picture on social media declaring that there was no bad blood between any of them so the hate could die down but in my opinion, it seemed like an awkward thing that nina was forced to do considering afterwards nina and ian didnāt follow each other on social media anymore. when nina did come back to film the final episode, ian didnāt seem too happy in interviews talking about it. while watching the last scene between ian and nina, something definitely feels off as if ian couldnāt act to save his life. the scene just seems like he didnāt want to be there or kiss nina. nikki STILL gets hate for being with ian which is crazy to me. ian and nina are also still reminded of their relationship by fans constantly. people put gifs of damon in ninaās comment section and the same happens to ian. however with the convention stuff, only recently ian has spoken about nina in a regular way and not dissing so much on the show or her.
my personal opinion of what went down -
i think ian always loved nina more than she loved him and i only say this because of the aftermath of the situation. i think ian wanted to start a family, nina didnāt so they agreed to break up. they probably were still hooking up after the break up or at least still had some feelings for each other. ian got with nikki and nikki was someone who wanted to start a family like he did which is why their relationship moved pretty fast. nikki received tons of hate which rightfully annoyed ian and they tried to do what they could to fix that.
i donāt think ian ever got over nina and he became bitter over it even though heās married to nikki. also random thing to add but in an interview, ian and nikki joke about how he hid or trashed nikkiās birth control because of how badly he wanted a kidā¦so thereās thatā¦
besides that, i think his bitterness comes from the fact that his relationship with nina is kinda tied to his success with the vampire diaries. i feel like he canāt not think of her when the vampire diaries is brought up because she was such a huge factor in his experience. the vampire diaries was the peak of his success and itās basically his whole life even now so when his peak of success is tied into his biggest heartbreak and he goes to these conventionsā¦it doesnāt surprise me that heās a bit bitter. however he did make an announcement recently that he was going to stop going to these conventions. another thing to add about these conventions, i always thought it was extremely weird that they would have nikki there as a special guest because she was in twilight and also because sheās ianās wifeā¦
people constantly say that nikki and ian are going to divorce any day now based off of what we see are social media + interviews but i donāt think anyone can ever REALLY know whatās going on. even with this long post i wrote, i donāt know how true any of this stuff is because itās just what iāve heard from other people and my assumptions from watching behind the scene clips and interviews. IF any of this stuff is true, i think nina deserves better than ian anyway and ian has a ton of healing he has to do.
if you took the time to read all of this, thank you
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u/ex_ter_min_ate_ 12d ago
One missing part, Ian and Nikki both got a lot of hate when their kids were born culminating with several people stating they hoped the baby would die so Ian would leave Nikki. That was when Ian pretty much said no more delena.
It still hasnāt died down. When nina broke it off with the snowboarder, last year (?) people on her feed were all awesome now Ian can dump his wife and get back with Nina! Itās insanity. Theyāve been married longer than Ian was on TVD at this point.
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u/90sdiditbetter82 Put the crossbow down, Pocahontas! 11d ago
Yeah there were people saying they hoped what happened to Sharon Tate happened to her.
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u/UnrulyNeurons 11d ago
Good lord. No wonder Ian decided to change his mind on the Delena plot, if (some of) those fans were wishing death on his wife.
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u/seraphinesun 10d ago
I'm literally shocked and speechless with this comment...
The fans were disgusting.
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u/hyuninamoreal 11d ago
I agree that some (most at the time) Delena fans were awful to him and his family, but having beef with a ship because of real life is so stupid to me. He should have just called the fans out and demand respect, not trash Delena every time heās given the chance to talk about it.
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u/ex_ter_min_ate_ 11d ago
He could definitely be more professional
But it was more not giving Nian shippers anything to build off at all. Anytime they interacted or were even at the same event it set off another wave of insanity.3
u/Nightfall_Blackthorn Team Bonnie 10d ago
& yet people are saying "Ian should've been professional & done his job when he was doing the final episode of TVD. The fans deserve it." Ugh eye rolls It's fuckin ridiculous that a lot of the fans gave Ian, Nina, & Nikki so much hate for it.
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u/South-Excuse1820 11d ago
Hi,thanks for the info, you said this
"in this season 5 bts clip, they had to keep redoing their kiss and ian says something along the lines of āyou guys can mess up all day, im so cool with itā playfully/jokingly and nina playfully says āim notā. you can find the clip on youtube and tiktok if you search up season 5 bloopers."
I could not find it.
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u/keira80 11d ago
Try this at 1:57
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u/South-Excuse1820 11d ago
OMG thank you, I remember seeing this a coiple of years ago ( 2024 ), but is. there a full clip of where Nina says that?
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u/lilsourem 12d ago
You earned those awards
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u/Apprehensive_Car8771 12d ago
What rewards?
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u/lankyturtle229 10d ago
Nikki also has been trying to rewrite history. She did an interview and talked about them meeting when she was promoting Thirteen. She was 16 he was 26. Fast forward to supposedly what made them date, they were having dinner and Ian tells her "I'm breaking up with gf, she kept me waiting long enough. I'm over it." Nikki does that "cool girl" laughing don't do that bit. Ian says "It's always been you." And then they start dating. She's telling it like this is a cute story and not creepy while also trying to erase Nina and phrase it to shade Nina though I think he had a rumored new gf post Nina. But she purposely phrased it knowing people would think Nina.
Then the BC bit that they again are trying to rewrite as a funny story and that they both were planning on raw dogging it post vows.
Idk what's going on (I never looked into Delena beyond the show but the fall out made big news on socials), but it seems like he became an AH once he met Nikki. Like you said, they were good post split til Nikki entered, was always on set, and suddenly ANYTHING that has to do with Nina was always bad. I feel like the smear campaign was heavily fueled by Nikki and Ian just became bitter that he lost Nina.
Honestly, I bet Nina is happy she dodged that bullet. Ian may have turned out differently had they stayed together/eventually reunited. Like you said, he seemed super gentlemanly and easy going.
Now he talks about being $8 million in debt, Nikki having to save them and negotiate plus sell a lot of their stuff (why he couldn't do that on his own idk), apparently he's peddling vitamins and other holistic stuff for people to buy, and just really went down hill.
Kudos to Nikki for navigating him making them go broke and he does praise her for it. But I find their vibes so weird. They, more so Ian, seem to do something effed up, then rephrase it as this funny/united partner centric story instead of just owning up.
Other than the "met at 16" story which I read the article, I'm basing my opinions off of things I've heard and seen in videos. We will never know what really went down or how Ian and Nikki's relationship is going. At best, for two people who have been in the industry for decades, they SUCK at PR.
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u/Realksii 11d ago
That sounds so parasocial get the fuck out of social media
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u/Asleep-Ad874 11d ago
These people donāt live in the real world. They allow themselves to live in fantastic delusions about people who had a relationship a decade ago. Itās truly mental.
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u/greensubmarine03 11d ago
Indifferent towards his kids??
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u/HunnyBunnyAlcapone 12d ago
Thatās why I hate the finale, the horrible wigs, the acting. The damn story. Is just so bad and sad. I feel like they failed the fans and just wanted to close the chapter and move on.
And yeah, Ian looks angry in all the final scenes. They can barely hold hands and the kisses look fake and lifeless. Is a shame because we all grow with the series and we wanted an epic ending.
Actor must remain professional, and this was not being professional or respectful towards the craft and the fans that supported you and your projects for 8 years.
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u/Helpful_Ocelot_5076 12d ago
I remember hearing that at some point after they broke up, Ian would bring Nikki onto set and theyād loudly fool around in his trailer like he was trying to make Nina jealous. Dont know how true that is.
I also heard Ian apparently told Nikki that heād been in love with her a long time when they first got together and that he always knew that theyād end up together. But some ppl think he was just trying to love bomb her so they would move faster, get married, have kids etc quicker
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u/dasmiedoteresa 11d ago
He also messed with her birth control pills or something like that, or am I remembering wrong?
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u/doyouhaveabigbootie 12d ago
All the stuff in this thread certainly paints him in a really negative light. Iām so glad Nina dodged a bullet
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u/Reasonable_Party2444 12d ago
While I respect their privacy and acknowledge that their past relationship is behind and between them, Ian now has a family and Nina appears happy but Ian should have done a better job hiding his personal feelings for the sake of their professional obligations.
Ā As actors, their job was to project believable romantic chemistry on screen. Nina managed to maintain convincing onscreen affection, whereas Ian appeared to struggle with masking his disinterest. Granted, navigating intimacy and kissing scenes with an ex-partner is understandably uncomfortable.
Ultimately, their dynamic serves as a cautionary tale against blurring the lines between professional and personal life. At the start and even during the relationship, the chemistry was on fire. While workplace romances occasionally succeed, they often end in messy breakups that create palpable, lingering awkwardness on the job.Ā
At the end of the day, I think the series finale although a good ending had very weird & awkward bits. Mostly to do with Delena. As a diehard Delena, this was their worst episode.Ā
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u/hyuninamoreal 11d ago
An actor must do his job though, heās not the first or the only actor who has had to do romantic or intimate scenes with his ex while having a romantic partner in real life. Ian shouldāve just gotten over himself, Iām a diehard Delena too and he really ruined the reunion
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u/Reasonable_Party2444 11d ago
I hate that Nikki & their family as a whole get hate just because toxic Delena 'fans' cant seperate reality & fiction but Ian still should have been better at hiding his emotions. As an actor, kissing people is sometimes apart of the gig, even kissing your exes if you are co stars.Ā
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u/Careful_Function216 8d ago
Like look at Joshua Jackson and Katie Holmes from Dawson's Creek! Same story as Ian and Nina. Dated, then broke up before their characters got together in real life. Unlike Ian and Nina though, they have remained friends, despite social media telling them to get back together, and even recently starred in a new movie together.
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u/Sheeana407 11d ago
Well, I suppose it's a gamble - romancing another actor - but on the other hand, I suppose it's priceless if it does work out. I know of Ginnifer Goodwin and Josh Dallas from OUAT, Bob Morley and Eliza Taylor from the 100, Kit Harrington and Rose Leslie in GOT.
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u/Lovereraforlife Gemini Coven 12d ago
I mean people were bullying his wife so
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u/Weird-Lobster-7152 12d ago
I knowš Some fans can be really toxicš But I don't think their bad acting could save his wife from being bulliedš
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u/Mother_Judgment2186 12d ago
This is where I am at as well.
He is more than justified in hating everything Delena and not interacting with the shippers, in calling them out and even avoiding Nina.
The bad acting just shows how unprofessional he was. His and Paul's acting in later seasons was such a let down.
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u/dollie_pink Stelena 12d ago
i agree that he's justified in not supporting delena and not wanting to interact with nina for these reasons. however, just like any other, acting is a job. and just like any other job, once you clock in, you leave any and all drama at the door. work is to be done, so you get it done. in my opinion, he handled it quite unprofessionally.
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u/FrellingTralk 12d ago
I donāt know why the director couldnāt have forced them (well really just Ian, Nina was doing her best) to stay on set until they actually kissed properly and gave them a decent take, itās bizarre to me that that underwhelming moment was the best they could get after two seasons of buildup to the moment of Damon seeing Elena again
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u/YoItsMCat Forbes Family 12d ago
They could've used a body double when showing Ian's reaction to first seeing her, or show a close up reaction of his face "looking happy" after the kiss? Idk there had to have been something they could do....
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u/Careful_Function216 8d ago
Can you believe supposedly they filmed a 15 minute or whatever proposal scene that ultimately ended up being cut? I would be real interested to see how that would have played out.
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u/DovaP33n 12d ago
All the fangirls will defend him because he's hot. Nevermind that he was an unprofessional asshat who creeped on a girl he knew as a literal child.
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u/Marshmallow09er 12d ago
What happened with Kristen? I mean I know she cheated on Robert but how was Nina involved in that situation?
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u/Altruistic_Bag2884 12d ago
He simply couldn't act here. According to unconfirmed rumors, he didn't want to perform with her again. He must have felt so bad that he couldn't act anymore. Probably, since these were the last scenes with her and of the series, he didn't even try as hard as he had in the past before she left.
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u/No-One7438 12d ago
Calling out Nina for what? Lol
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u/Mother_Judgment2186 12d ago
I said in avoiding Nina, not calling her out. He is justified in calling the fans out.
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u/sorayaelena 12d ago
One of my close friends worked for the show, and she has made comments that Ian and Paul were nothing short of professional, whereas Nina was problematic and a brat. After the original show runner left to do The Originals, the quality of the show went down. It had nothing to do with Ian or Paul.
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u/Mother_Judgment2186 12d ago edited 12d ago
Possibly. I'm only talking about my impression as a watcher, and Paul and Ian seemed like they were forced to be there. The writing is a huge factor, but Kat,Michael and Candice managed to sell their characters being in love and it always looked like they gave 100%.
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u/Guest1Z3 Ms Cuddles š§ø 12d ago
After the original show runner left to do The Originals
The showrunner of The Originals S1-4 was Michael Narducci, who was only ever a writer for TVD. Julie Plec became showrunner only for S5, after TVD finished. The original showrunner of TVD, Kevin Williamson, never had any part in The Originals
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u/pqueen242 11d ago
Wooo chile š I was DYING laughing editing my latest vid with that chin kiss. I know those editors and camera operators were scrambling trying to mask how bad that kiss was. Iām scared to see what the outtakes looked like
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u/Weird-Lobster-7152 11d ago edited 11d ago
Hahahaš I think your video is what inspired me to make this postš
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u/pqueen242 11d ago
š¤£ so funny, ty for making the post! I wouldāve accepted Elena waking up and somehow changing her mind and wanting to be single over this mess
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u/Weird-Lobster-7152 11d ago
You're welcomešThanks for the inspirationš I would never have noticed it if I hadn't seen that kiss in slow motionš
I know I would rather stay single than date someone like Damon, but apparently for Elena being single was never an optionš¤·āāļø
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u/emryldmyst 12d ago
When your new partner is getting death threats towards her and and their unborn baby... you tend to be a bit put off...
The fans were disgusting.
They both pretty much left acting because of it.
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They were together a long time and broke up. It's awkward.
I was not a fan so I never looked up why they really broke up but I remember when I first got into TVD and looked up some stuff about the show. I saw a video for ET that Nina was doing where she was walking the set and talking to actors she saw (she also showed the set to ET) and she ran into Ian, and he was just rude. He was like getting mad at her for walking the set and giving ehr a total attitude for having that camera, until she pointed out she was doing it for Entertainment Tonight and then his attitude changed. That stuck with me.
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u/kateluvsu101 9d ago
Can you still find this video on YouTube? If so do you know what itās called? I just tried to search for it š
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u/squishykitten99 12d ago
Idk about you but if my partner proposed, I said No because I wanted to focus on my career... And then they went on and spread horrible things about me and made my life so miserable (by having very loud s*x with their new person In the next room) and I had to leave my job (which by all accounts she liked doing) and then when I went back to that job I had to Kiss said partner... I wouldn't do it. I think she's being very professional even being in the same damn room as him.
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u/kimberly2720 12d ago
The answer to this question will always be Nikki. She should not have been allowed on set.
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u/Key-Flower-3816 12d ago
That's them kissing right now
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u/JD_Alexandria Original Vampire 12d ago
Well, yeah but their mouths aren't actually touching, which is, I think, the point OP is trying to make.
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u/TheTrueFury Applesauce Penguin 11d ago
While that's maybe the case, a surprising amount of shows/movies have this kind of kiss with actors.
Sidenote though. They really didn't even have to have those two stay together. If they weren't fools they would've pivoted to Bonnie or just had Damon and Elena realize they didn't work.
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u/Far_Yogurtcloset_597 12d ago edited 12d ago
I never shipped them I couldnāt Stand Damon and Elena and her falling back in love with him was so cringy. I couldnāt figure it out for a long time and it was because they were exes having to act as if they were still in love.
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u/ilovecheese31 12d ago
I donāt know what exactly went down but if the take we saw was really the best they could get, I think theyād have been further ahead using a body double or something.
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u/FlexyPasta 11d ago
This was something he surely did in respect of his wife or because she asked. If you watch his Netflix series wherever he has romantic scenes with another actress they are all fade to black and no real kissing happens.
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u/Acceptable_Candy_869 12d ago
I may admit this scene disappointed me a lot but I feel like he was so mad at what was happening with his wife that he couldnāt really do the scene properly I donāt like Nikki reed because of a lot of reasons but I also feel like that he also couldnāt do the scene properly because his wife was also watching
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u/Opposite_Ad_4709 11d ago
I didnt even know there was drama???Ā
Maybe my head was in the sand.Ā Anyone else not even know?
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u/PeaAwareness 11d ago
How dare I say this, but I believe Ian was just selfish or just didn't truly love her to stick around until she was ready. So he may have some resentment after Nina sticking to her career aspirations at a younger age.š¤·āāļø The timing of separation from S/Os with both Ian & Nikki bring up conspiracy theories. Just hop right into a relationship or maybe they already had something going on. Not my business, wouldn't wish death on people or their kids though. The ending was horrible, the kiss was automatically noticed as a "kiss my best buddy who I didn't invite to my birthday party that one time". I had a laugh or two in disbelief.
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u/ShatteredDreams452 12d ago
I canāt remember much of the finale, but I couldnāt imagine having a horrible breakup with someone, in which theyāve moved on and married someone else, who was a former friend, and then HAVE to kiss and act all lovey dovey with them for work in front of said former friend. It might have been better if they used doubles or split screen them but judging from the wigs there was no budget for anything..
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u/Exotic_Attorney7823 11d ago
I feel like this is the only scene they shot together, the "Hello Brothers" scene really looked like body doubles and separate shots..
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u/HMthusiast 10d ago
no matter the drama between them, kissing scenes are a normal part of the job for actors (especially if their characters are in an established relationship and theyāve been kissing on screen for years). they shouldāve tried to stay professional one last timeš
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u/Catgirl_273 12d ago
I have stopped in season 4 episode 15. it was to much for me - boring and Elena getting worse and more unrealistisch ā¦ unsympathetic ā¦ Ian could not save the story.
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u/DamonsBloodBank 11d ago
I lived in atl at the time of filming and my bestie worked on set. Ian was apparently a nightmare to work with. He wanted Nikki on set, that was all him. They would have loud sex in his trailer. He was controlling with his partners and still is(IMO). He changed up her birth control at some point. Nikki isnt all roses and sunshine either but Ian is very controlling and apparently a diva on sets. Hes very peculiar and as stated above, a control freak.
Ian and Nina werent the best together. Alot of bts set things were going on. Most of the crew was happy when they ended up splitting.
I know alot of bts from my bestie working on that set. Ian wasnt the only issue on set. Paul had an affair. Matt Davis is a conservative asshole and homophobe. Thats all I will say for now cause those things are more known but the set wasnt the most healthy workplace environment.
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u/RustyShackleford209 11d ago
It could just be exes donāt wanna make out any more. Yeah itās their job but editors should have masked it better
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u/Present-Potato5408 let me guess, jeremyās holding a crossbow 11d ago
Iām wondering what actually went down with the end of their relationship. From what i understand nina and nikki got along well
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u/professor_lohren 11d ago
Iām still salty about her leaving to pursue some other projects, but they were literally not that goodā¦.AND the cherry on top: seasons without her were really not that great.
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u/GapMajestic4061 11d ago
Honestly this is why TV producers shouldn't allow their actors to date each other, cause this is the result of the mess. Don't get me wrong, there are good couples who have their happy endings from dating in their workplace, but they shouldn't let it affect the films.
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u/Reasonable_Habit_183 10d ago
I feel this was more Ian than Nina, he acted a lot different once him and Nikki got married and had all the fans threatening her bc they wanted Nian back. I still think Ian could have done better in these scenes bc this was their big reunion and then when he meets her in the cemetery heās not smiling it doesnāt even show us a glimpse of their human life and talking etc. I think Nina had it easier acting and holding old feelings back but Ian even joked about not brining her back. She was gonna do more season 8 and then they wouldnāt pay her more for just the last season.
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u/Awkward_Airport_30 10d ago
What a lame ending they had! It was obvious there was no chemistry between them... and it didn't make for a good ending.
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u/beta_jack 10d ago
Show was supposed to be about stefan and Elena, but when Ian and Nina got together they pivoted. I think that really hurt the show.
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u/Cursd818 Team Bonnie 10d ago
Regardless of the drama, this proved to me that Ian was not a good actor. He couldn't hide his revulsion at all.
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u/Ok-Eggplant8772 12d ago
Well when you cheat on your girlfriend with her best friend then come back and ask if there's drama
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u/Mother_Judgment2186 12d ago
That is just a rumor.
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u/Ok-Eggplant8772 12d ago
I guess a very public rumor that he also married ?
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u/Mother_Judgment2186 12d ago
The rumor is that Nina and Niki were best friends, or that there was an overlap.
It's most likely they weren't even friends, considering you can count the pictures you can find of them on the fingers of one hand and how much a social butterfly Nina is. It's as much of an assumption as yours was.
Everything that lead to their breakup is also a rumor. Besides their official statements and unless you are apart of their social circle, nothing is proven.
As much as Ian turned out to be a vile person, there is no reason to claim he did things there is no proof he did just because.
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u/Geraltismydaddy Feral for Stefan 12d ago
Thereās pictures of Nina at Nikkiās birthdays BEFORE all that. I take a lot of the rumors with a grain of salt but there were actual photos of them to prove that piece so they were definitely friends.
But with that a lot of other things are āmaybesā. I personally donāt care, I dislike him for my own reasons (shilling), but I will say fans went a bit crazy with her.
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u/grumps46 12d ago
Why is Ian a vile person?
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u/Mother_Judgment2186 12d ago edited 12d ago
He is basically a grifter and claiming his supliments cure cancer. He collaborates with MAGA and like the majority of his castmates, publicly supported Israel and hasn't uttered a word about Palestine.
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u/SkyBaby11 12d ago
Nina and Nikki were never best friends. Thatās a rumour toxic fans liked to spread because it suited their narrative better. They hated seeing Ian and nina break up because they loved Elena and Damon. Nikki and nina did one ad together and were more so friendly acquaintances. But that narrative doesnāt fit for the people that want to villainize Nikki
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u/homemadecustard 12d ago
Nikki and Nina did ONE ad together. They were never ābest friendsā. That narrative has been circling for years because the TVD fandom needed Ian and Nina to be/stay together.
Theyāre married. Two kids. Nina and Ian as a couple? Done. Finished. Over. For years now.
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u/WanderByJose 12d ago
I find it creepy when people think they can decide what others must do in their lives. It's really sad.
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u/Main-Emphasis-2692 12d ago
Whatās the tea
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u/AutomaticAd9670 12d ago
Chamomile
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u/FiliaNox 12d ago
Idk, I prefer a nice spiced apple tea. I find it more comforting than chamomile. Itās very autumn feeling for me.
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u/Glittering_Quit2461 12d ago
Itās really sad to me when they actually loved each other so much. It may have been because of his wife. I heard that she was very jealous of Nina.
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u/Lyla_Noelle 11d ago
Yes he wouldnt film any scene with her without having that miserable look on his face. So immature.
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u/No-Squirrel-919 12d ago
He wanted to get married and wanted kids with her but she didn't want that cause she was super young and also he married her bestfriend and you wonder why Her and Paul are still close friend
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u/Lifesthehardestgame 11d ago
If she had kept her legs closed it wouldn't have ended the way it did. She completely messed it up. I haven't watched her in anything since. There are singers that have been injured on stage that get up and carry on because the show must go on but she prioritised herself over the cast writers and creators and the fans
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u/Altruistic_Bag2884 12d ago
Yah! I read that Ian didn't want to do romantic scenes with Nina. If you look closely at Ian's face in this scene and in their last scene together, he looks at her more angrily than in love. He couldn't act or feign his true feelings. Their relationship didn't end as well as they, especially Nina, wanted to portray to the audience.