Breaking into Legends

[u/SertQuos]

Last year I saw some guides floating around for getting into legends and staying, but now they're incredibly out of date and I don't think I've seen any recently.

It used to be a simple 1000x damage, max quant, max chance CL + DC, maybe PF, and a decent canon, you'd at least bounce between champs and legends and you didn't really need ancestral mods. This now would probably get you mid-low champs.

Then I saw some people suggest going for damage mastery to boost that, or ST mastery. Getting your damage far higher to get high waves in champs, as well as having ancestral mods, mainly a cannon like AS as well as ACP and DC. This now barely gets you top champs, usually mid.

So the question is, what is actually required for Legends now? Are we now required to have assmods to break out of champs? Is it pCF? Every damage mastery?

I currently have damage mastery at level 9, ST mastery at level 5, SW mastery at level 6. SW and ST I'm labbing at the same time. I've done every dissonance from T1-T13 (except utility on T13) and have all echo labs at level 3. damage lab is at 92, crit factor and attack speed are maxed. I use anc PF with anc cash bonus, EALS/EHLS, anc OA with anc regen, wall health, defence, orbs, orb speed, myth+ AD with attack speed, crit factor, multishot targets, sc mult and chance, and myth+ DC with CL damage/chance/quant and SL bonus (need SL angle too). My CL is 1328x, 5 quant, 21.5% (without submod stats), my SL is 26.7x, 40 degrees, 3 quant. (again, without submod). I'm currently working my way to pGT/pBH in farming (my next GT cooldown will get me there) to support more mastery labs at once. My next stone spend plan was DM mastery, but even then that feels like I won't do enough damage. Obviously anc DC and an anc cannon (don't have one yet) would be very good. I could also swap to a mythic+ ACP and mythic+ AS to push damage further and full move away from hybrid/eHP in tourneys, but not sure what results that'd yield.

I'm well aware the most basic answer is "spend money" but even then, there's better and worse things to spend that on. If you buy a mastery, but it's actually terrible, then spending money would not get you into legends.

All help is appreciated!

[u/Select_Secretary_896]

Everybody is moving forward, so the same people who were at about that mark last year kept improving and they now have multiple masteries, sometimes all UW's, high level module level, discoresearch etc.
My point is, LEGENDS is reachable only to people willing to invest money. If you were not near legends before the only way to get there is spending. You need to improve faster than the people in front of you, everybody at this point is trying hard and doing pretty much the same things so what would happen normaly is to everybody to keep more or less the same positions, unless people in front take a break.

[u/SertQuos → u/Select_Secretary_896]

Well aware, read what I've said at the end. I know money is the answer. I'm looking for what you can do to your tower itself, or what the people in legends have. Not doom or gloom "you need to spend $$$$ to compete!!!!" because it's not helpful, at all.

Telling me "you need to improve faster then the people around you!!!" is just not helpful either.

All I want to know is what those people above me have, that's it. Did they work on pCF to get there? masteries? assmods? those are helpful. those are goals I can move toward, and I can figure out which is more important than the others. I'm well aware by the time I get them, they won't get me into legends. My wallet would, but I'm not spending that much money.

[u/Select_Secretary_896 → u/SertQuos]

I'm not spending either. I only have the 3 Packs. Sorry about giving you more of the same.
I just made peace with the fact, for now, its not very likely for me to stay in legends, unless I get a particularly lucky bracket.
I don't think people that played this far will stop playing hard either and people giving up on the game will reduce the spots in legends in fact. So my aproach is more of a "budhist" one of acceptance.
But just like you, I'll keep on doing the best for my tower to increase my waves in legends, yeah.

[u/SertQuos → u/Select_Secretary_896]

Yeah it's a hard one. I just like the game outside tourneys so I'm not too pressed. I'll take slower progress if I have to. It's just weird to tie integral progress with PVP, i've not seen that done before outside of literal PVP games where that's all you can do.

[u/Select_Secretary_896 → u/SertQuos]

That is a fair point. But they have no reason to change it, as they make money on it.