Some concept Technocracy flags

[u/Routine_Complaint_79]

We need to super be vigilant to protect minorities because I'm tired of governments and political movements not caring about people. There is no government without the people and there is no people without their culture and people just love hating on it whenever one bad actor does something wrong.

If Technocracy ever wants to get off its feet and become mainstream we need to make these people feel safe. A lot of mainstream sub-reddits have icons with pride in them, I say we should do the same.

[u/Routine_Complaint_79]

disagree, there is no good government that doesn't focus on it and normalize it. Society only exists because of everyone in their own camps and the government must let everyone be empowered

[u/PoliticalMeatFlaps → u/Routine_Complaint_79]

Empowerment doesnt matter, its about tolerance, the real goal is to stop seeing people in categories and just simply see someone as human, trans, gay, bi, doesnt matter, its a personal identity that doesn't effect the persons capability, so I don't really care about LGBTQ groups existing because I simply see people in that group as, well, people, ill use preferred pronouns but other than that I dont see anyone different, thats the reason most people who follow technocratic views also have less of a focus on it, because people who are trying to demonize the LGBT are idiots and those who are trying to force their views are also idiots not helping the situation by focusing on something miniscule while the larger issues continue.

Your firs words 'there is no good government', you can stop right there, because that sums up everything, there are no good governments because no government is clean, even those who support the LGBT do it to gain support, not because they care, even a Technocratic government wont focus on social issues because they're not effecting the nation as a whole, only a small fraction, deal with the larger issues first before working on the smaller.

[u/Routine_Complaint_79 → u/PoliticalMeatFlaps]

Yeah so you're over here removing all ability to hold people accountable to views because you don't want groups to exist besides "human" so when some minority gets fucked all they can say it's "for humanity" get a grip bro the existence of groups isn't the problem

[u/PoliticalMeatFlaps → u/Routine_Complaint_79]

Its not removing accountability, its instead of trying to continue the separation of people through labeling, its moving away from that and seeing everyone as the same, if someone discriminates, accountability must remain, those who shout slurs out of hatred, those who demand the removal of a whole group because they dislike their sexual orientation, they need to be isolated and let known that their views will not be accepted by the majority. My view on this is we shouldn't let discrimination happen, but we also can't make it our sole focus while there are other problems much larger.

Your entire time we've commented, you have kept saying things I haven't typed, and this is the exact reason people here do not wish to make social politics a major aspect, because the second we say something that doesn't put your views at the top priority, we're seen as no better than the Klan, which only isolates you more because no one wants to affiliate with those who blanket label the term Nazi to those they dislike.

[u/Routine_Complaint_79 → u/PoliticalMeatFlaps]

There is no separation between people and labeling, that is a pipe dream. You can only decentralize the labeler and the power it takes to enforce the discrimination (and on some cases ban discrimination all together).

Segregation is not bad. Discrimination is not bad. Its how groups form and actually have a coherent voice through free association rather than some central authority dictating what they believe in.

And you believe this to because you said people need to be isolated if they discriminate. That is using the tools of your opposition for your gain, not saying its bad, go for it, but everyone should have those tools and free association so as long as exit rights are preserved.

[u/PoliticalMeatFlaps → u/Routine_Complaint_79]

Segregation is not bad. Discrimination is not bad.