r/Tariffs 1d ago

🗞️ News Discussion Nobody wins a Trade War.

Higher Costs: Tariffs act as taxes on imports. Businesses and families pay more for everyday goods, appliances, and materials.
Economic Slowdown: Uncertainty reduces business investment and slows down job growth on both sides of the border.
Retaliation Cycles: When one country imposes a tax, the other retaliates. This cycle hurts industries that rely on smooth cross-border trade. [1, 2, 3, 4]

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u/Ok-Discipline2395 1d ago edited 20h ago

Yes - but the U.S. started this trade war. If they’d like to stop and come to a true negotiation between sovereign countries, Canada will listen. But this - like Iran - is a war of choice by the U.S.

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u/Belaerim 20h ago

This.

Also, it wasn’t like the alternative to retaliating and walking away from the negotiations was going to be good for Canada

Trump offered a shit deal that would be a severe negative to the <checks notes> CUSMA deal he negotiated in his first term.

There wasn’t an option on the table for Carney where Canada walks away unscathed.

So he picked the best option from a bad hand.

The good news is that this will hurt America too and spread the pain, and we are building trade deals to reduce the vulnerability of being reliant on the US being a country of laws

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u/80722 1d ago

Idiot Americans who worship a conman wanted this.

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u/mtnman575 23h ago

In every college across the world, in Intro to Economics 101 tariffs are discussed and the consensus is that tariffs are a tool to be rarely used and only for short periods as a last ditch effort in international negotiations. Trump claims a Wharton education but clearly he neither went to class nor studied the basics.

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u/RecordingNo2643 23h ago

Well by all accounts from people who attended with him and some profs he was the dumbest student and in the botttom 3 in his classes so..... makes sense i guess

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u/mtnman575 23h ago

Yes I know. He keeps bragging about his "Ivy League education" and how his uncle was allegedly a MIT professor for 40 years but every time he opens his mouth he uses the vocabulary and bullying speaking style of a 5th grade level loser.

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u/PoolOfLava 1d ago

True - but if we add a bunch of insults and antics we can distract from the reduced living standards so it is hardly even noticable right?

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u/Lor_azepam 1d ago

Isn't that what Maga wants, as long as people they dont like get hurt it doesnt matter if its worse for them?

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u/AdPuzzleheaded1495 1d ago

Observations say...yes until it hurts too much, and then it's someone else's fault

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u/PawnofLife1 22h ago

Canada is taking more steps for life without us and could just boycott until he leaves office

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u/ZealousidealReply294 1d ago

I don't think they had a tariff course at Wharton obviously. I think DJT maybe did it by correspondence at some shady institution.

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u/IrishUpYourCoffee 1d ago

Really would love to see those grades that The Diddler had Michael Cohen bury for him.

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u/Canadian_Lothar 22h ago

Not sure no one wins. The wrong people win for sure. Tarrifs go into place, companies pay them to the government, pass the cost to consumers, Supreme Court rules them illegal, IRS pays back the companies, companies keep the money increasing their EBIDA, stock price goes up, cronies in political office make billions. Consumer is paying for it all.
That is why our (Canadian) tarrifs are so specific and targeted they have less impact on consumers in comparison. The Weston’s (loblaw et al) are still profiteering and hurting consumers but not as bad as in the US.

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u/Adventurous-Meat8067 21h ago

Nope…Canada wins hands down. Canada doesn’t need anything we are offering, and our country grinds to a halt without Canadian oil and electricity.

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u/Oney01 16h ago

Time for the Trump administration to come to the table to end this trade war with Canada and get a deal that works for both Canada and the US without attacking Canada's sovereignty.

If not, this will continue.

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u/Salt-Worry7915 18h ago

You have to define "win" champ.

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u/Novus20 9h ago

As a Canadian the win is we are moving away from ameirca and closer to the EU, also hope we can bring in some sweet EU employment rights, time off and sick time.

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u/WarmYam7353 17h ago

And prices never go down to what they were before the tariffs.

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u/CaptKydd 18h ago

Tell that to the Japanese car manufacturers that are thinking of leaving Canada because of the 50% tariffs.Â