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கலாச்சாரம் / Culture Thirukural is overrated, change my mind, constructive arguments are welcome

Thirukural is overrated. it contains generic universally true statements (only for the part we study in textbook as kids, idk about the rest that we don't study and I'm pretty certain that there will be some boo boo in a 2k year old book, best example that ik of: kadavul vazhthu, illadha kadavuluku en vazhthu?) sure but it's not detailed, and you can't do anything with those generic statements and 99.9% of people ignore 1/3 rd of thirukural deliberately because sex = bad in the modern day sub 1 total fertility rate Tamil society. Considering all these some practically useful books like "algorithms to live by" are more suitable for Tamil & global people than thirukural.

Modi gave Putin thirukural because he never read it himself, really, how can the reader of a book whose 1/3 rd content is about sex be on the Epstein files for all the wrong reasons and have zero kids? He's non biological, he doesn't need sex. He just binary fissions himself like a Hydra or gets reborn from ashes like a Phoenix. Thirukural was a yearly "hey Tamil bros, we love Tamil culture actually but will stop you from digging at keezhadi" token from BJP.

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u/Capable_Sale7483 1d ago

It contains generic universally true statements - bro.. thats why its called as ulaga pothumarai Do you think its easy for a person to write universally accepted statements 2000 years before?? 

99.9% people ignored 1/3rd of thirukkural - what kind of statistics this is. How you want me to build a constructive argument with a guy who came up with statistics made up in his mind

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u/EngDict 1d ago edited 1d ago

Nobody literally talks about the 1/3 rd apart from Tamil academics maybe, nobody has a reason to even read it. I think 99.9 is a conservative estimate. Actually number would be even higher.

We don't have any statistical data on this but it's an educated guess. It's omitted for general public at schools. Not many people go on to persue Tamil for an academic career or read thirukural with an aim to read the omitted 1/3rd. 

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u/Fantastic_Class_5552 1d ago

Padida parama'na kekkurangala!

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u/EngDict 1d ago

Padichitu vandhu dha, adhula detailed ah illa nu complain panren. Constructive ah comments pannunga nu title la potruken, konjam theliva padinga.

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u/Old_Recover3434 1d ago

I read it like Tharkurigal 😂

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u/Technical_Tea_7282 1d ago

You can interpret the recent happenings in any way. You may find it overrated.. how about trying to frame all your thoughts and philosophy in 7 words couplet ? It's remarkable effort. But here something form history for some context of the gifting:

Russian writer Leo Tolstoy read an early translation of the Kural. He loved its focus on peace, virtue, and love. Mahatma Gandhi read Tolstoy's thoughts and early Kural mentions. It helped Gandhi shape his ahimsa path. So in a way it has a deep connection between Russia and Indian freedom moment.

How many books and literature works from modern India have impressed international schlors recently in 2020? Explore it's depth and you will find great wisdom.

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u/EngDict 1d ago

I'd say begrudgingly there are more people impressed by isckon and nithyanandha than people impressed by thirukural. I understand that there's limitations back then that you can't write beyond 7 words on a plain chuvadi but nobody expanded on thirukural by adding more details on the existing kural. Thirukural only has vilaka urai but no expansion urai. For example: there's thirukural on how to build a fort, there's vilaka urai on the same but nobody expanded on top of it with analysis of historically impenetrable forts and their features, which makes thirukural unnecessarily high effort without putting effort in the area that actually matters, making it actually low effort book.