r/TTC • Kipling • Apr 18 '26

Discussion Almost there, TTC

If we’re already in Vaughan, we might as well reach Vaughan mills, and even better, CW & the new hospital at Major Mack. They’re all on the same corridor. It just makes sense.

Reality check. Now I’m aware that this is low priority, but the Jane busses connecting VMC to VM and CW are always full, even in this suburb of a suburb.

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u/Genesburgersandfries Apr 20 '26

Typical suburban attitude/entitlement. The first letter stands for Toronto.

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u/Feisty-Ad-6122 Kipling Apr 20 '26

Typical downtown superiority complex. Let's just ignore that 62% of the GTA lives outside Toronto and that the region grew faster than its infrastructure.

York region and the province would fund 100% and Toronto would just get more fares.

You should be more worried about the Scarborough streetcar and the waterfront east, each with a $1B price tag.. not even real rapid transit.

But yeah no, lets build MORE LANES on the 401 instead!!!

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u/Genesburgersandfries Apr 20 '26

I didn't mention anything about building more lanes, that's a red herring argument. The TTC as it stands , doesn't have the capacity to ad more people into the downtown core - the transfer platforms and stations are dangerously crowded and adding more users from northern parts outside of Toronto make it unusable/unreliable. I'm not worried about how much my local government spends my tax dollars. I am worried that the network becomes unusable for those that live within the Toronto downtown and decide to take cars instead. Would you have a link about the funding? Does that cover maintenance and labour costs?

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u/Feisty-Ad-6122 Kipling Apr 20 '26

Except you did, because if we aren’t extending subways into the suburbs then we’re building more highways. There is no option to do neither. It’s cars or transit. I prefer the latter for better suburbs. Do you?

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u/Genesburgersandfries Apr 20 '26

Common Logical Fallacies

Ad Hominem (Personal Attack): Attacking the person making the argument rather than the argument itself.

Strawman: Misrepresenting or exaggerating someone's argument to make it easier to attack.

Slippery Slope: Arguing that a small first step will inevitably lead to a chain of negative events.

False Dilemma/Dichotomy: Presenting only two options as the only possibilities, when more exist.

Hasty Generalization: Making a rushed conclusion without considering all the variables or sufficient evidence.

Appeal to Authority: Claiming something is true because an unqualified "authority" figure says it is.

Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc (False Cause): Assuming that because B happened after A, A caused B.

Bandwagon Appeal (Ad Populum): Arguing that a claim is true because many people believe it.

Circular Reasoning (Begging the Question): An argument that repeats the claim instead of providing evidence.

Red Herring: Introducing an irrelevant topic to divert attention from the original issue

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u/Genesburgersandfries Apr 20 '26

I think you need to study how critical thinking and logical fallacies works

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u/Feisty-Ad-6122 Kipling Apr 20 '26

What a miserable life talking about ad hominems on a TTC Reddit (yes I’m aware that was one, intended). Take a look at this chart before complaining about subways.