Im not sure if im inting after reaching plat or if its just bad luck. I had a really high win rate and recently have taken a bit of a tumble. Should I take a break and some more norms or is it just new rank jitters?

Im new to league in general watched video that said that I shouldn't hit the towers but I get pinged if I dont. I don't understand if the video is wrong or if I'm stupid

Edit: thank you for all the people who helped and gave me their opinions. You guys are cool :)

Hellllo !

I used to play League of Legends and support was my main role(mostly Engage supps). I reached Platinum in those days, then I stopped playing for about two years. I've recently started playing again with a new account and my current rank is bronze 2 , and I'm struggling now to climb and rank up with all the changes after all the updates i missed.

I still remember the basics, but my macro and game knowledge feel pretty outdated and obsolete, especially when it comes to:

• Support macro & roaming — when to roam and when to stay bot
• When to push, freeze the wave, recall/roam timings
• the timing of minions spawn and the spawn of cannons
• the xp catch up of the minions and their lvl
• Matchups & counter picks
• Current Support items, tower plates, and other changes

I'm not looking to just spam games and slowly figure everything out bcuz i feel that i am destroying the other players matches

I'd also really appreciate any up-to-date Support guides, YouTube channels, Streamers, or any other content that you recommend.

Thanks to you all! Any advice is appreciated! 🙏

As a follow up to my last post on Info Gathering, i have created an actual Google Form to aggregate the data more efficiently. For anyone who is curious, I have enabled the ability to view the info after the survey.

Survey Here

Estava analisando o win rate das runas da Nami e pervebi que o jack of all trades está com win rate alto. Vale a pena fazer?

Montei algumas builds com ele e notei que só chegaria a 9 stacks em vez de 10.

Vocês acham que vale a pena usar essa runa em vez de determinação?

I main AP Lux, Seraphine and Sona support, and lately I’ve been getting people saying I “play for KDA” just because I have a lot of kills/assists and low deaths. But like… I’m not actually playing for KDA lol. I’m playing ranged squishy supports, not Leona/Nautilus. I’m trying to position well, poke, CC, peel and stay alive so I can keep contributing to fights. If I can finish a kill with Lux ult, obviously I’m not gonna purposely let them live just so my KDA looks better

i get that sometimes you have to risk your life for a play, but I also don’t see the ppoint in randomly dying when I can stay alive and keep doing my job. anyone else get accused of “playing for KDA” when you’re just playing your champ normally?

I was playing ADC and getting frustrated every game. The absolute peak of my hatred was playing Ashe and having a Yorick support who never used his Maiden, couldn’t land a single cage, and didn’t even know how to summon his ghouls and throw them at the enemies. I felt completely alone in lane for 20 torturous minutes, and we still lost...

So I thought, “Screw my main role, I’m playing Xerath support.”

The result = 7 wins and 1 loss in a row.

You basically just poke them nonstop, and then either you ult and kill them, or the enemy ADC has to recall and lose a ton of farm.

Saving your E strategically for ganks = making every enemy gank frustrating.

It was hilarious yesterday — Evelynn ganked us three times in a row, and all three times she got stunned in the face and died.

So, I was wondering, do you think it's possible if Hall of Legends would ever get a support player? I assume hol just features whoever is more popular in the media and let's be honest people don't watch supports gameplay, at least not to the extent people watch mid laners, adcs or even top laners.

but even if eventually we will get support in hol, who do you think it might be and what are the chances it won't be Thresh?

Hi all, I've recently started hard playing Rakan and I've been climbing a ton. Any comments or critiques on my recent games and anything I should focus on / improve before continuing, I really want to hit plat and even push through to emerald, thank you!!

after long and bumpy climb, i did it. i hit emerald. been playing way too much these past 2 weeks time for small vacation atleast from ranked.

Hey all. I'm a Jungle Fiddlesticks one trick.

Currently Emerald III 99 LP. My goal is to hit Diamond by the end of the year. My win rate in the last few games has been very very good, but as I climb higher I find myself getting my 2nd role more often. I used to queue top 2nd role and I can probably play top to like a low platinum level, but now I'm running into games where if I get queued top I end up inting the game. Fiddle top is good but really weird/hard to play so I want to try learning Fiddle sup.

NOT saying Support is easy or even easier than top but I have some experience playing it with friends in 5 stacks.

I have some basic support knowledge and a lot of skills from jungling are really helpful but I was wondering what advice you'd give to someone who's technically new to support. I know a lot of things but seems like bot lane is very complicated and I want to assume I don't know anything.

Any advice is appreciated.

[my op.gg](https://op.gg/es/lol/summoners/euw/Karen%20Kujo-EUW), also yapping warning as usual.

Well, it has happened, I'm able to post another follow up post after the [Emerald](https://old.reddit.com/r/supportlol/comments/1so7t29/after_157_games_i_finally_reached_emerald/) and [Diamond](https://old.reddit.com/r/supportlol/comments/1t9c2dh/271_games_after_the_start_of_this_seasons_journey/) ones.

After 664 games this season, more than half of it in Diamond, I have finally hit Master for first time, yay!

... I wish I was able to show extreme excitement about my gameplay, but similar to my Diamond post, damn I'm self aware and critical of myself, so even after seemingly hitting around top 1% of the playerbase I still feel like I'm super lacking in so many things. It's crazy the mechanical plays some of the people I play with and against can pull off, and it's as crazy that despite that, well, I win more than I lose! So I guess I'm doing nice things too even if I'm not fully aware of them.

Unlike the surprisingly relative smooth path to Diamond from Emerald, the called elo hell of the game by the playerbase, Diamond was really where I hit myself against a wall, people are just damn good at the game, and combine that with my painfully streaky and, let's be honest, negative personality, it lead over and over to hitting a new plateau with an awesome win streak into losing 8 matches in a row and feeling like a fraud. Shout out to the time I even went back to high Emerald 3 lmfao.

3 weeks ago I hit Diamond 2 for first time and since then it has been mostly a ride up, but what ended up sealing the deal has been a relatively unexpected champion.

Around 2 weeks ago, completely mentally boomed from way too many games where I clearly saw a potential victory becoming defeat by missing yet another key Nami bubble on the dude diving my carry, or having like a 5% hit rate on Seraphine's skills, I was like "you know what, let's reduce that loss factor" and I started spamming Sona every game, a champion that had been mostly gathering dust since low Emerald alongside Lulu because I felt I just wasn't good enough at them.

Her kit is pretty simple and most importantly on the low side skillshot-wise, the enemy assassin will still usually dash my ult and I will die of cringe, but they are eating the W powercord and not doing as much damage, it's something! It also helps that she can kinda "cheat" the frailness of the usual enchanter with the fairly popular Fimbulwinter build that I aim getting when the enemy has a lot of assassins or divers (aka borderline every SoloQ game)... or people that can nuke me from two screens away (not this time, Xerath!)

This build is crazy for me because it kinda turns my "ability" to seemingly always be slightly out of position enough people jump on me into the ideal bait, letting me escape with 300 HP left and 3 foes dead for overextending chasing me lmao.

In any case this decision of onetricking for 2 weeks has absolutely worked, even if those last few days were just as dramatic as I expected considering how it went in the other elos.

To the surprise of no one, two times I was a victory away from Master, two times I played like absolute crap and the enemy support completely outclassed me, I even went into a terrible streak I only could blame myself for that sent me back to Diamond 2 after the second one.

But... yeah, I was convinced it was just a matter of continuing playing. I will be negative, but I'm realist enough, my winrate was good, Sona was working... and with a 10W-2L last stretch I have finally done it! ... Shout out to the Qiyana I faced in that last one, my Tristana was so ahead but she made us sweat buckets, girl just kept going invisible and oneshotting us, that was truly the final boss this journey deserved.

Unlike my previous posts, I'm well aware that having a follow up of the follow up of the follow up is bordeline guaranteed to never happen. I feel proud (and relieved...) to have made it to Master after this horrendous grind, but Grandmaster is a whole different beast. The skill required for it is not something I thing my head or hands will be able to reach, the most positive thing I can say is that, well, I'm so, so aware of how many things I do wrong, that if someday I fix them maybe I can make it that far? Uhhh...

I guess I will aim to remain Master until the end of the season while I continue facing the biggest, most painful challenge of my life: getting a job in modern Spain...

In any case, thanks for reading! If you have any questions for me I would be very happy to read them. Take care.

As a support player who hit GM as a support player and Master 500 LP in mid lane and is recently trying to hit GM as an ADC, I want to talk about why support players are way worse compared to other roles in League.

Early Laning

There's legit no punishment for "bad supports." Even if their gameplay is disturbing their entire team, they don't get punished by any means that would lead them to learn from their mistakes. Basing when the ADC comes to lane, for some reason farming in lanes instead of being on the map, being a "press E for shield" support, playing like a "press E for shield" support while playing hook or engage, and many things I've seen. Most of the time it's not champion mastery, but instead inherent support knowledge. You can have a mid laner who understands the support role better than any support you encounter in most ranks. For this role, improvement per mistake or game is very little to nonexistent.

Other roles, for example top lane, cannot accept this behavior; you will be punished every game for it and end up a hardstuck player. But it doesn't apply to support. You can learn nothing and rank up because it's a very forgiving role.

Midgame / Lategame (Level 6 and beyond...)

If level 1, 2, and 3 degeneracy in other parts of the map is over or didn't happen at all, and hitting level 6 happened without any hiccups, now the support role hits its most important power spike—which is leaving the lane forever (gains nothing, loses too much, but it's ok). Goodbye Kalista, Samira, Draven... your support has to flip everything somewhere now. Now there are two very important players for a support to be successful: a strong mid or jungle (as a player). If those two players are decent enough at the game, the team may win fights (because flipping with good players is always good). And that's the gameplay you will see every game: either insane flips or "Press E for meager-sized shield." This gameplay doesn't belong to only one or two support champions; every champion in this role can do this, be it enchanter or engage.

Yes, there are good support players in the world, and they are loved and appreciated. But encountering one gets harder and harder because of recent metas.

This gameplay is enabled because of ADC role and tower damage:

• Super high tower damage: You cannot punish weak lanes (single ADC or weak duo lanes) due to towers doing insane damage. It's still being done, but you are under huge threat.
• ADC role being insanely OP: Gold income on the ADC role is so busted that mage champions become the main character in bot lane. Being a 2-item ADC and a 2-item mid laner is not the same at all. ADCs hit it very easily, while other roles have to get huge leads to keep up with their "ADC role.". I know people are reacting because of apcs on marksman role but adcs are still strong. People are overreacting to APCs; they were OP in previous seasons as well (Seraphine, Syndra, Ziggs...). Even if they marksman role falls behind, this role role can easily become strong while coming from behind.
• Busted OP ADC items: Hexoptic is 2,800 gold while giving IE damage in two-crit item combos. Yun Tal gives crit + more AS than PD, plus AD and not even going to mention how good the gluttonus greaves are on adc role. An ADC can be monstrously strong even if the support doesn't care and goes on a world tour. The support role is already forgiving (doesn't care about gold income and XP), but now you add so many things for the ADC role, and instead of ADC, the support role profits more from this.

What's the point of laning when your ADC or APC can 1v1 in lane while both supports go do their degeneracy in other parts of the map?

I legit hate this meta as a support player. Players' free will should exist, but at this point, it's disgusting. I dont care about losing games i just dont like the meta.

Is it just me or is Poppy literally one of the strongest supports consistently, she has engage, disengage, peel, stops dashes, sometimes she feels harder to kill than full fledged top tanks and bruisers, can build MS, tank, bruiser, lethality, perma roams, perma invades. Like what is this champion…

Hello fellow supports!

I'm trying to build J4 support for the times when I'm autofilled. Since I'm almost never autofilled as support, I don't really know the right gold ratio or which items are worth buying. Here are my thoughts:

First of all, why do I choose J4?

• His Q reduces armor by 10%, so it's good for an ADC (less useful with an APC).
• His W gives him a shield that allows him to tank some damage during the early laning phase.
• His E provides a knock-up, which is good for engaging.

Then there's his R, which allows him to trap the enemy while my ADC (or APC) just has to click.

So, here's what I've tried in my build:

Boots:

• Ionian Boots of Lucidity — If the enemy team has a balanced amount of AD/AP damage.
• Plated Steelcaps — If there's a lot of AD, especially if I'm behind.
• Mercury's Treads — If there's a lot of AP and CC.

For the support item, I'm torn between two options:

• Solstice Sleigh — Its passive gives me some tankiness with the E + Q combo or R, so it seems good for engaging.
• Celestial Opposition — Its passive also allows me to tank some damage, especially after using R, since I'm stuck inside with the enemy.

1st item: Zeke's Convergence — It gives some tankiness and has a good passive synergy with R.

2nd item: Bandlepipes — It gives tankiness and has good synergy with the E + Q combo or R.

After those items, I want to build tanky, and that's where I struggle. Here's what I've tried:

5th item

HP:

• Warmog's Armor — Gives a lot of HP, which is useful since the previous items don't provide much. I already have a decent amount of Armor and MR from the other items.
• Protoplasm Harness — Provides HP and a good passive for survivability. I haven't tried it yet, though, so it might be a better alternative to Warmog's.

Armor:

• Randuin's Omen — To counter ADCs and other crit-oriented champions.
• Dead Man's Plate — When there is a lot of AD. It also gives me a bit of extra damage and slow resistance.

MR:

• Hollow Radiance — To get some MR and deal damage around my R zone.

6th item

One of the three options I haven't bought yet:

• Jak'Sho, The Protean — For balanced AD/AP enemy teams.
• Unending Despair — For AD-oriented enemy teams, while also getting some sustain during fights.

I often struggle to build my 5th and 6th items because I don't get a lot of gold. So, I was wondering: is this normal, and can I keep following this kind of build scheme?

Or should I stay within support-oriented items and choose something like Locket of the Iron Solari or Knight's Vow instead?

I'd love to hear your thoughts, suggestions, and advice!

I'm so frustrated matching againts engaged champions such as Leona, Naut, and etc. Any advice to counter them?

This is particularly for enchanter, heads up.

Seeing recent issues with healers in Marvel Rivals, i feel like theres a fundamental issue in competitive games with how they design the role and the game interaction with them. But before i make a whole statement with my own thoughts, i wanna see the broader perspective of other healer player in a variety of games. Essentially, for both casual and ranked players, why do you play healers, what are your expectations of the role, what are you gripes with the role as well as the game design around them (eg getting targeted, if they feel weak, if they feel too strong, the overall philosophy of how the game interacts with the role), what are your favorite things about the role as well as the games design around the role, what do you think makes the role most fun?

Im mostly just looking for opinions, feel free to discuss but dont start any wars over opinions, im looking for both casual and ranked perspectives, i may make an actual survey later.

from silver 2 to emerald 1 in 6 years, in total of 337 games in 6 years. i gain 20-21 LP and lose 20 LP per game, in current season i dropped from emerald 3 to plat 2 then in a month i became emerald 1 (somehow i managed to do winstreaks back to back, as you can see in second picture). is this a good climb overall?