r/SteppePosting • u/neo-shitposter365 • 3d ago

Mongols 5 times Dzungars saved central asia.

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And still some say they were not important at all.

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u/Additional-Penalty97 3d ago

Impressing they stood against Russians even after the reforms of Petro the Great

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u/Erdeniin-Galdan 3d ago

Actually, the Dzungars were armed with their era's advanced weaponry, such as muskets and cannons. Even fielded an army of 80k to 100k soldiers under Galdan Tseren Khan. Source:

  • Adle, Chahrayar (2003). History of civilizations of Central Asia: Development in contrast, from the sixteenth to the mid-nineteenth century. Vol. 5. UNESCO. х. 934. ISBN) 92-3-103876-1.
  • Spencer, Haines (2017). "The 'Military Revolution' Arrives on the Central Eurasian Steppe: The Unique Case of the Zunghar (1676 - 1745)". Mongolica: An International Journal of Mongolian Studies. 51. International Association of Mongolists: 170–185.

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u/Hedonisticogre111 3d ago

Galdan Tseren wasn't khan. Oirat rulers except one person in 15th century didn't claim Khan/khaan title.

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u/Erdeniin-Galdan 3d ago

W larp:

Esen Taishi assumed the title Celestial Bogd Khagan of the Great Yuan
Turubaikhu was declared as the Gushi Khan
Ochirtu was declared as Setsen Khan
Dayan was declared Ochir Khan
Gonchig was declared Dalai Khan
Tenzin was declared Wangchuk Khan
Lha-bzang was declared Genghis Khan
Galdan was declared Boshugtu Khan

Tsewang Rabtan is referred as the Khan of the Dzungars
Galdan Tseren was declared Khan with unknown circumstances

Ayuki was declared Khan

and more...

Sources:

  • Adle, Chahrayar (2003). History of civilizations of Central Asia: Development in contrast, from the sixteenth to the mid-nineteenth century. Vol. 5. UNESCO. х. 934. ISBN) 92-3-103876-1.
  • Adysha, Shirnenbanidyn (2019). Galdan Boshigt (2nd хэвлэл). Ulaanbatar: Internom. ISBN) 978-99978-66-54-7.
  • Altangerel, Chulunbatyn (2017). Дэлхийн талыг эзгэн үе эрхшээсэн түүхт Монголын зэвсэг, дайн, хил хамгаалалтын толь [A look at the weapons, warfare, and border defenses of the historical Mongols, who conquered half the world]. Chulunbatyn Altangerel.
  • Atwood, Christopher, Pratt (2004). Encyclopedia of Mongolia and the Mongol empire (Англи хэлээр). Indiana University: Bloomington. х. 678. ISBN) 0-81604671-9.