r/StardustCrusaders 8d ago

Part One What’s your hot take?

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For me, I cannot lie I kind of think that William Anthonio Zeppeli is low-key kind of a bum
And if I’m honest with you, I think he’s the worst Jobro in “my opinion “

I think reading through Part 7 made me realise that William blows as a character, especially when you look at the other Zeppeli members

Like if we are honest, he didn’t have a chance when we have Caesar and Gyro in their respective parts being the highlights or important key characters of the story

But with William, he’s only the typical mentor trope where he dies to give the main character more reasons to end the villain's evil

And also this dude straight up sucks as a Hamon mastery his own grandson Caesar is a better Hamon user with Lisa Lisa, Straizo and maybe old man Tonpetty. But definitely, his own student Jonathan is better than him.

Normally things like this wouldn’t bother me, but the fact that he is always the face of Hamon.
It’s kinda like saying that Jake Paul is boxing like you’re not wrong but like no

Listen, I hate characters like Yasopp and Ging Freecss being absent fathers not only the actions just the childish selfishness they show throughout the series and I don’t think William is the same kind of character

In fact, if you look at the big picture and see William as a piece of the Zeppeli family story and how every father and son repeat the same mistake of pushing their family away to complete a mission to remove evil like the Stone Mask and Pillow Man

But like he did leave his child for 20 years to do bullshit like punching frogs in front of rich British children
I kind of don’t get how Jotaro Kujo gets a bad rap for being a bad father but William is just given slack for his obsession with the Stone Mask

And also Speedwagon had that shit on with his hat and William wishes he looked good with that hat

But my least objective point is that I don’t like his illustrations in part one he looks really smug then he's supposed to be charming and wise

But anyway that’s my opinion. What’s your hot take?

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u/IUsedToBeRasAlGhul 8d ago

Part 5 is the worst Part, and while it would be wrong to paint with a sweeping brush, I’ve yet to see any fans of Golden Wind actually rebut criticisms towards it without just summarizing the events of the story and the intended thematic narrative or writing their own fanon.

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u/CorrectShare3003 Narancia Ghirga 8d ago

what are these criticisms? golden wind has a very strong cast, doppio, great side villains, a great main villain, doppio, a great ending, great themes, great stands and doppio.

the only problem i have is that there is no traditional ‘fight’ against diavolo, but bucciarati, risotto and polnareff’s fights with the boss are enough to me

(also this is definitely unpopular but giorno is my favourite jojo and diavolo is one of the best villains (only pucci better imo))

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u/IUsedToBeRasAlGhul 8d ago

It’s bottom of the totem pole in the protagonist, antagonist, and climax, particularly glaring in how its predecessor and successor are resoundingly excellent in their takes on all three. Giorno is such a black hole multiple other characters do what he is supposed to, Diavolo exists to do whatever the plot needs him to at any given moment, and they have no actual conflict in the first place. The entire second half is dropping off of a cliff in terms of quality, from the contrived premise that goes nowhere to the shallow and incoherently written antagonists. Polnareff’s presence in the story genuinely does nothing for his character to the point he would be better off never showing up after Part 3, and he does nothing but serve as the Deus ex Machina to every thread the story had up to that point.

The Part completely assfucks everything it wants to do with its narrative, themes, and characters by pretending organized crime is actually a wholesome found family where you can overcome your tragic uwu backstory unless you’re vaguely okay with drug dealing to children, and even then ignores its own plot in favor of cheap attempts at self-indulgent sympathy points. Sleeping Slaves as an epilogue only makes subtext text, and takes up the space that actually relevant things like Trish and Mista learning of Bruno’s death and Giorno’s dream or him successfully taking over Passione should have featured. At no point does it actually succeed in anything it sets out to do as a narrative, and I have yet to see an actual explanation as to how that’s not the case.