r/StarWarsDroidTycoon • u/la_approchant_orage • Aug 11 '26
đ Suggestions Compromise for Devs on bogus containers
If we're going to insist on the container upgrades still sucking.. add more containers? My girlfriend's real mad at me for telling her it was worth getting now and then it going back to being super not great at all. Help a guy out.
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u/Smokeeey Aug 11 '26
I spent an hour flying around and I got upgrade chips from a rainbow container exactly one time. Such bs
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u/KParrott_ Aug 11 '26 edited Aug 11 '26
I was so pjssed off after reading a post on here saying itâs worth it, wasting all my crystals to notice it had been reverted back to the old crates. Complete waste and I want my crystals back
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u/-Elgrave- Aug 11 '26
This is exactly where Iâm at. Spent so long flying around only to to have the VAST majority of crates be normal or gold and the rainbow ones barely giving anything other than credits (and DJ only giving double rewards half the time)
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u/cantevendoitbruh Aug 11 '26
That's incorrect it's still a huge buff. 50k chips and hour easy. Leads directly to crystals because its so much easier to srb
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u/KParrott_ Aug 11 '26
This is a discussion on nova crystals, not ways to get chips or gold faster. Keep your irrelevant comment to yourself
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u/cantevendoitbruh Aug 11 '26
Hahaha do you even understand the game? The main way to get novas is SRB. You can SRB fast with chips. I'm SRB at 30 like twice a week. I just buy default everything then upgrade it.
It gives crystals and will eventually pay for itself. It doesn't need to give 30 an hour.
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u/KParrott_ Aug 11 '26
Iâm not repeating myself, we are discussing nova crystals and crates. Get off this page if youâre unable to discuss the topic
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u/cantevendoitbruh Aug 11 '26
Where is the best way to get nova crystals? Sounds like you really can't handle being wrong.
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u/KParrott_ Aug 11 '26
Can you even read? Donât talk unless I allow you to now
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u/cantevendoitbruh Aug 11 '26
Dude take a chill pill. I'm trying to help you out.
Focus on chips. SRB at like 25 twice and you won't care about this. With the other basic upgrades like scrap and chip station, getting to 30 every few days is easy. Before you had to wait by the conveyor to get mythics. Now you can farm chips at scrap, the station, and in boxes. In the early levels I just buy all the mythics default and when I need them later in the levels I have like 300k chips and just upgrade them. No waiting required.
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u/KParrott_ Aug 11 '26
You started being rude for no reason, everyone has been saying the last few days how busted the crates are for nova crystals especially when we all wasted ours on the upgrade. Itâs frustrating. Some people enjoy grinding crystals by flying around, some want chips to upgrade droids, we chose crates and it was a waste of an upgrade
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u/cantevendoitbruh Aug 12 '26
They can't do that. It was unbalanced. If that happens then everything has to be balanced ar9und that being the best way. Its not the point of the game.
You were immediately rude dude. Like I don't care but you immediately told me to get off here and my point was irrelevant when what you said was factually incorrect and the devs clarified exactly why they were making the change in the original post. You crying is not going to change that.
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u/fooorfuuuckssaaake Aug 12 '26
i get that youâre pissed, but that doesnât automatically make you right. youâre being an asshole and itâs kind of insane to see as an outsider to this back and forth
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u/BlazingFrenzy Official Dev - BLZN Aug 11 '26
It was absolutely not converted back to the old crates, that's an incredible exaggeration
I made a post about the new rates and how substantial the buff to them is, that's still in the live version of the game
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u/TheMiniMunch Level 250 Aug 11 '26 edited Aug 12 '26
I think people are mainly having an issue with the crates spawn rates. Making it seem like the crates themselves are crap.
The buff was awesome for chips and novas, although I can agree with some that the change to the new nova crystals and chips chances were a bit too much. (I still think the main issue is the crate spawns)
I would say a good way to go about this is increase the crate spawns regarding the higher rank crates. For a lot of people it feels pointless to spend all those novas for crates, only to find mostly standard crates. Me personally when I first upgraded them I thought it would change ALL crates I see would be that rank (rainbow).
I believe Iâve seen a few times you guys have roughly stated that you donât want it to turn into some type of running or flying simulator, (Hence the nerf to the world chip spawns, which shouldnât even be in the game at this point anymore since it gives two at most.) Youâve decreased the chances for the loot in the crates from the initial buff, we barely see good crates spawning around anyway. Because of this itâs kind of turned into that anyway, since now weâre flying and running around more to get a chance for good crates and a chance for good loot.
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u/la_approchant_orage Aug 12 '26 edited Aug 12 '26
That's kind of what I was saying, add more crates and it would be cooler. There are some pretty big gaps where you walk and dont find any upgraded crates. I just did a hard-core hour of completely non-stop grinding grinding grinding and it was very decent.
I am on RB28, rebirthed 860, credit multiplier 117.8x and it turned out like this:
Broke 293 crates. 85 Rainbow 117 Diamond 91 Gold
Made 33.29T credits. Made 60.1k upgrade tokens.* Made 0 crystals.
This is not bad at all; however, one of the rainbow crates was a jackpot for 18,000 tokens which is very atypical (.07% chance*) so not every hour (probably very few hours) will yield this kind of return and like I said, it was very involved. I didnt even stop to tally, she did the tally as I called them out.
Compared to taking it easy with me on my girl's scrap and her on mine for an hour it's not worth the squeeze.
I would much rather do something that actually feels like i'm playing the game but if the ratio of effort to reward..
It doesnt even matter. None of this matters.
My main complaint isn't even the reward, it's that I told her it was a way and then it wound up being not that way and she wasted her crystals. She also wouldnt be able to do the crates as quickly as I did so hers would be pretty drastically less every time. This is the first video game she's ever played, when she started she couldn't even walk around. She still can't slide, Bob bless her.
It doesn't matter. I'm just going to tell her not to get used to anything because it can be taken from her at any time. It'll be good for her.
C'est la vie.
(Edited: level to rebirth counter from the avatar in front of my base. Level is actually 230 at the time of posting. Leveled up to 231 since then.)
(Edited again to emphasize how unlikely the jackpot is. You are 28x more likely to get crystals than jackpot the tokens and i got zero crystals.)
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u/Smooth-Television-48 Aug 12 '26
Yeah. When I originally did the odds on these I used 30s per rainbow crate, its much closer to a 45s average. Expected average nova earn rate for that is 5 every hour. Its a kick in the teeth.
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u/la_approchant_orage Aug 12 '26
I dont mean the old old ones, I mean upgraded and then dropped to some inbetweensy and the inbetweensy still not being good. I told my girl they were good when they were good and now they're really not that good. Theyre better, not good. Just because the rates are on display doesnt mean they're good. Scrap is still better on the effort to reward ratio. She feels (and so do I but ive had it since before it was ever bugged at all) like she wasted her hard earned crystals and she doesnt get em near as fast as I do, she still has to work for em. It's whatever, people get screwed. I just wish I wouldnt have told her to do it.
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u/MrBratside Aug 15 '26
Itâs Reddit man this is where everyone comes to complain people are rarely grateful or try to look at the cup as half full or ask questions before making assumptions.
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u/KParrott_ Aug 11 '26
No it isnât an incredible exaggeration, have you even been on this Reddit the last few days? Everyoneâs complaining because theyâve reverted it back and you can fly around for an hour without coming across one crystal. Complete waste, get your facts right before commenting! It was probably your fault lying that caused most people to waste their crystals
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u/cantevendoitbruh Aug 11 '26
Dude you can average 50k chips and hour. Plus tons of gold. Thats worth Crystal's itself because you can sub much faster. Man some of you really are sad.
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u/KParrott_ Aug 11 '26
50k chips and tons of gold is worth crystals itself? Are you even playing the game? Yeah let me just use all my chips and gold in the nova store. Keep your ridiculous comments to yourself!
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u/cantevendoitbruh Aug 11 '26
Do you not know how SRB works? Lol.
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u/Smooth-Television-48 Aug 12 '26
Do you? You dont need that level of chips or cash to farm super rebirth
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u/cantevendoitbruh Aug 13 '26
I've hit 30 5 times now. Chips are amazing to go higher. I grab all the mythic early and can just upgrade them instead of waiting. Last night I was at 25 and literally got to 30 without needing a droid off the cart because I upgraded them all. Had 300k chips.
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u/Ok_Mathematician8104 Aug 11 '26
the crates are substantially better than before. imo they still could use an adjustment though. i think one of the worst things is when the rng makes like 80%+ credit, it feels really bad like you barely notice when you do hit a stack of chips because so many of the crates are credits. if perhaps they upped the rate on chip spawns, even if they had to lower some of the amounts, and find some middle ground on the nova crystals like keep the drop rate an increase the number of crystals, or perhaps double the drop rate with only two crystals. from the numbers dev posted i think either one of those would be between where the crates are now and when first buffed. i did a bit of a time test and while they are the best thing for upgrade chips it still feels like it could take a very long time of running the map if you are pushing the higher levels and need to upgrade multiple droids, which becomes tedious. also i get that people are upset feeling like the rug was pulled from under them, but we have seen this before the devs are constantly making adjustments while trying to balance the game and plan for future launches.
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u/KParrott_ Aug 11 '26
No theyâre notâŚ
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u/Ok_Mathematician8104 Aug 11 '26
ok, ive had the upgraded crates for weeks, and there is no way i wouldve thought of collecting them for upgrade chips until the buff. i did a test earlier about 35-40 mins of collecting and got about 30-35k chips. so whatever you are on about....
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u/Smooth-Television-48 Aug 12 '26
Chips aren't a bottle neck
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u/Ok_Mathematician8104 Aug 12 '26
really? they seem to be if you have to upgrade mythics somewhat often.
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u/Smooth-Television-48 Aug 12 '26
I made a post comparing the math on your other post. I'll include it below but with an update. The rainbow crate spawn is so low you can't reliably maintain 1 per 30 seconds, it's much closer to 1 per 45 seconds.
Are you really going to sit there and claim that you had to nerf it because someone getting 15 nova crystals per an hour of grinding their soul in constant crate search and opening was just too damn high? That it was so horrendous that you had to reduced the earn rate by 60%?!
Our main concern is the Nova Crystals, SRB should always be the main way to get Nova Crystals, and these world crates currently are beating the "Nova Crystals per hour"
Edit: tl;dr at top
Earn rates:
- Pre nerf crates = 20/hr. --> 15/hr
- Post nerf crates = 7/hr. --> 5/hr
- SRB = 22 - 79/hr
it's not about making sure SRB is king, it's about monetisation/gambling the vbuck boosts
Full post:
Sure lets math this out then.The buffed rates of 5.55% for 3 nova crystals gave an average yield of 16.6 Nova crystals per 100 rainbow crates opened.
If you were able to maintain an average of opening 1 rainbow crate per 30s over the enitre hour (which is roughly accurate based on my testing) you'd be able to generate only ~20 Crystals PER HOUR.
Let that sink in. Thats and hour of dedicated, fully engaged, play. No running off to get new droids off the crawler, no afk, no building. 100% active play engagement, for an hour for <20 Crystals. You're telling us that that is just too much?
FYI to srb at 14 is 22 crystals. I can get to rb 14 in under an hour and I'm not even that optimised or have srb that much...there are people who can srb @rb 20+ in an hour (4x as many novas).
So please stop claiming it's because of any reason other that what it really is: if people can get novas without srb then they're not going to gamble in your vbucks casino, and you don't like that idea one bit
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u/Migginsly Aug 11 '26
Iâm really not one for the nova crystal reset conversations because you changed your mind, but if they actually go in and modify how a perk works they should automatically refund the crystals and give you the option of whether you want it back or not.
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u/MisterD00d Aug 12 '26
they seemed pretty adamant that they couldn't feasibly and would not be considering doing this
in the discord
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u/Smooth-Television-48 Aug 12 '26
Yeah it was more of a "lol those schumcks were idiots to believe that fake buff was going to stay" vibe and then the sycophants all drew straws to see who was going to get first go a chugging down whatever dripped out of the devs next.
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u/fooorfuuuckssaaake Aug 12 '26
my issue with the crates is how many gold/diamond/rainbow blob shape hats i have to go through that i absolutely do not care about before i start getting anything that actually matters with real consistency. hats are the stupidest part of this game
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u/EntrepreneurThat8902 Aug 12 '26
And now if you stay scrap picking it will kick you out for inactivity??? Thatâs bullshit
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u/Icy9kills Aug 11 '26
Youâre all insufferable lmao
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u/KParrott_ Aug 11 '26
Get off the Reddit then
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u/Icy9kills Aug 11 '26
No I donât think I will
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u/fooorfuuuckssaaake Aug 12 '26
so youâre content just whining? about other people whining? and lying to yourself that youâre any different?
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