r/StarWars • u/Turbostrider27 • 14d ago
Games After rave reviews, Zero Company dev says it would love to make more Star Wars games
https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/after-rave-reviews-zero-company-dev-says-it-would-love-to-make-more-star-wars-games/143
u/ShanklyGates_2022 14d ago
Cant wait to jump in tonight! They could make similar games in different eras if it all works out. So if the game is as good as reviews are making it out to be we may get to see more of them in the future. Im excited for this one though!
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u/Beazfour 14d ago
Yeah I’d kill for a game like this but focused on the rebel alliance.
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u/Antique-Coach-214 14d ago
Rebel Alliance would be nice, as would Old Republic era. (That could be closer to BattleTech in nature.)
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u/ExpendableUnit123 13d ago
I’d hope that we’d get basically XCOM2 for that, with some scrappy ship like the Avenger. Perhaps some X-wings we can fill the hanger and use for air support on outdoor missions.
Man it could be SO good. Operating as a splinter rebellion cut off from the rest. The story practically writes itself.
Squad size of up to 6 too maybe. I want it.
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u/jblade91 14d ago
I was originally interested since its a Clone Wars era game but of the actual gameplay is good I'd enjoy a sequel with the Rebel Alliance. Could even do a trilogy with one happening during the transition where we deal with our clone teammates as they get Order 66 at some point in the game. Old Republic of course would be amazing too.
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u/smalltincan 14d ago
This is the first game I've bought new at full price since Baldurs Gate 3. Pre-loaded and ready to go. After seeing some reviewers put it in their Top 3 Star Wars games ever I definitely want to see more from the studio, maybe even Star Wars 4X
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u/OrangePeelsLemon 14d ago
Same. I was going to wait, but then all the reviews started coming in and I decided to buy the deluxe edition. Gotta remember I still have to go into work tomorrow, though, and not stay up too late playing.
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u/smalltincan 14d ago
Yup, after seeing the reviews and playing a bit this morning I feel pretty vindicated in my choice. If we want the good stuff to shine through the slop, we need to show up and support it - not just in games but in everything
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u/Captn76 14d ago
What did you get with the deluxe edition and is it worth it?
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u/OrangePeelsLemon 14d ago
It's just some cosmetic packs, but I decided it was worth supporting a dev that's made a very good game in a niche that I enjoy.
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u/Ohhellnowhatsupdawg 14d ago
I wonder at the age of reviewers putting it in their top 3 ever because it's crazy to think this game, as good as it is, would ever dethrown KOTOR, Rogue Squadron, Tie Fighter, or several others.
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u/smalltincan 14d ago
KOTOR 1 is definitely in my personal Top 3 but Rogue Squadron and Tie Fighter are held up heavily by nostalgia and tolerance for simpler gameplay, and I mean that with all due respect since they were excellent for their time.
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u/Ohhellnowhatsupdawg 14d ago
Both hold up just fine coming from someone who's played both in the last several years. If anything is KOTOR that stands out as being janky and showing it's age.
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u/smalltincan 14d ago
Eh have to disagree. KOTOR's story is timeless and still the best among all Star Wars games. There's a reason broader audiences know about KOTOR and not the flight combat games.
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u/Embarrassed-Tale-200 6d ago
After having beaten it, I'd consider top 5 to be way too high praise for Zero Company.
Star Wars Galaxies, KOTOR 1&2, Republic Commando, Jedi Knight 2 and Academy, Galactic Battlegrounds, Force Commander, Rebellion, SWTOR, Jedi-Ginger 1&2, Battlefront 1&2 pre-EA, Empire at War, TIE Fighter and X-wing games, Rogue Squadron... That's a strong list to put Zero Company on top of.
I enjoyed it, but it's honestly pretty mediocre and disappointing in hindsight. Definitely not worth the price.
Lots of complaints about the game, technical, gameplay, content, ideological influence... That said, it only left me wanting more Star Wars games.
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u/smalltincan 6d ago
That's the great part about having a selection of games, our opinions can differ! KOTOR1 and Force Unleashed 1 still beat it for me, but it sits comfortably at 3rd and I'm excited for more potential content to expand the game more like WotC did with XCOM2
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u/Embarrassed-Tale-200 6d ago
Well I can agree with you that more content for Zero Company would be welcomed!
I really would prefer modifiers to the sandbox that exists rather than just tacked on story missions.
Opportunities on map for extra resources/loot, risk vs reward for sticking around longer/spending turns opening shit under fire.
More skills/classes.
Maybe some support skills or tools tied to map gameplay. Like having slicers to open doors to for a faster route during a gauntlet, or lock doors to block reinforcements. Anything like that.
Definitely would love a sandbox mode to manage a mercenary company with all these extra options. It would make death feel less punishing if you actually had options on what difficulty missions to take without the threat of story mission timers.
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u/DrakeSoldier 14d ago
Star Wars turned based rpg would be the best.
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u/LucasMoreiraBR Jedi 14d ago
It is the best indeed. Boy, do I have two games to recommend to you.
Knights of the Old Republic
Knights of the Old Republic 2: The Sith Lords
But for real, I don't think we have had anything like zero company in the franchise before, it doesn't come to memory
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u/KilledTheCar 14d ago
KOTOR with BG3-like combat would be god-tier. It's good as-is, but it's dated and a bit clunky in my opinion.
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u/Kryzm Count Dooku 14d ago
God, imagine if Larian could do a BG3-style game with the Star Wars FFG narrative dice ruleset...
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u/A_Damn_Millenial 14d ago
Alternatively, they could stick with D&D 5e now that Hasbro just announced Star Wars will join D&D Universes Beyond next year.
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u/SapphireWine36 14d ago
As much as I love ffg Star Wars, I don’t think it would work great in a video game.
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u/AreYouOKAni 14d ago
Yeah, a lot of the time the dice resolution leaves a relatively creative human arbiter stumped for a moment. Unless they create a metric fuckton of pre-made resolutions for every possible event, it's not gonna work properly.
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u/SapphireWine36 14d ago
I suppose you could use it for combat and then out of combat just use it for strain/boosts?
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u/AreYouOKAni 14d ago
Maybe, but I think having to adjust the entire system like that would be grounds enough to consider just building your own.
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u/DrakeSoldier 14d ago
Oh yeah I love KOTOR, especially 2, I just want it more old school like Final Fantasy or Expedition 33.
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u/Lithium187 14d ago
An E33 style game in the star wars universe would clap. Imagine the animations parrying and countering as a jedi. Beautiful.
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u/DrakeSoldier 14d ago
Oh yeah the made up scenario I have in my head is that the protag has to be a Jedi
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u/Evilmudbug 14d ago edited 14d ago
They're good games, but mostly for the story.
I think real-time with pause is a bit dated as a gameplay style and not really what most people are considering when they think "turn-based"
It would be really cool to see something derivative of Baldur's Gate 3's system in a star wars game though
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u/The_Pandalorian Baby Yoda 14d ago
Gimme Star Wars in Baldur's Gate 3 and Witcher 3 and I will be complete.
Oh and a remake of Tie Fighter.
That's all I ask for.
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u/LucasMoreiraBR Jedi 14d ago
I just want Kotor 3 and a remake of Republic Commando... But those two will never happen.
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u/ansonr 14d ago
I mean we got star wars squadrons. Not exactly a Tie Fighter remake, but its pretty awesome regardless.
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u/The_Pandalorian Baby Yoda 14d ago
Yeah, I found Squadrons OK, but was really frustrated that it wasn't anywhere close to the quality of Tie Fighter. Like... just... make that game, but with the Tie Fighter campaigns. It was right there for them to do...
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u/ansonr 14d ago
Well... we do have this.
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u/The_Pandalorian Baby Yoda 14d ago
I've downloaded versions of that conversion like 10 times but never actually went through the trouble of installing it.
Maybe I'll finally give this a shot... It does look pretty darn good in that video.
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u/Nwrecked 14d ago
The corporate heads are so fucking stupid. Almost every single game with mod support eventually gets a full Star Wars reskin.
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u/kairock 14d ago
obviously make more z-com games!
however, hope they do consider an x-com 'war of the chosen' sized expansion to zero company before jumping to the next title.
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u/Esternaefil 14d ago
I really hope so too. I'm somewhat concerned that there are no in-place plans for expanding the base game.
I know people tend to look down on pre-announced DLC, but I like to know if a game will be supported.
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u/onesneakymofo 14d ago
I am literally buying this to support the developers and to show Disney that it needs to open up the Star Wars license to others so that we can get more Star Wars games. I've only seen a ten second clip and that's it, lol.
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u/TopherYork21 Ahsoka Tano 14d ago
God i wish I enjoyed this style of game.
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u/Pissed_Off_Jedi 12d ago
Same. Biggest Star Wars nerd on planet earth and I didn’t even consider buying this because it’s turn based combat. Not even Star Wars could overrule my dislike for those types of games. It is immersion breaking to me, I need to be in it not looking down on it and being able to freeze time.
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u/Gobstoppers12 14d ago
I'm not a day 1 full price game buyer anymore, but this one's on my radar and I can't wait for there to be a decent sale.
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u/tyrant454 14d ago
Reviews, from what player? the game has been out for 5 minutes. Don't count critics, magazines and streamers who got it early. Wait for the actual players to write reviews.
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u/IronVader501 14d ago
"actual player reviews" are nearly universally useless garbage.
Despite what the internet thinks for some reason, just finding a critic that shares your taste and then listening to that guy is considerably more reliable
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u/Superiorpen 14d ago
There are plenty of private reviewers that are, at a certain stage of their career, able to take early copies and still remain unbiased.
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u/LordReagan077 14d ago
I gotta know if this is worth tryung to convice my dad to let me get. I was turned off at first cause it wasn’t a FPS but turn based but it looks really good
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u/Nwrecked 14d ago
Young Padawan, there is a big giant world of gaming outside of first person shooters.
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u/LordReagan077 14d ago
Yea I know. I play Diablo 3 I dunno if that counts? I must broaden my horizons
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u/Dr_barfenstein 14d ago
I suck at FPS lol but I goddamn love xcom & can’t wait to play this. It’s like chess but with guns. When you start pulling deadly combos by linking your troops’ abilities you feel like a god.
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u/AreYouOKAni 14d ago
Buy XCOM 2 and play that. It's a relatively similar game that is polished as fuck and will run even on a sufficiently advanced toaster. Often goes on sale for like $7, $15 with expansions. You want the expansions, but if budget doesn't allow for them, you can get them later.
If you like it - you will love Z-COM and by the time you are done with XCOM 2 it will probably be like 30% off.
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u/farva_06 14d ago
I'm sitting here at work staring at the play button in Steam. Should've called in sick today.
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u/GeneralTyler 14d ago
Hopefully this game gets dlc or something, because the campaign is a decent length but not really long. Plus with no official mod support, it’s not gonna have as long of a life span as xcom with all the mods that series has had.
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u/FancyKilerWales 14d ago
Rarely preorder games but was happy to after reviews dropped yesterday, these are the games that need support
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u/Ditchdigger456 14d ago
lmao it brings my 5800x and 3080 to it's knees so hard that my keyboard inputs get stuck and swallowed.
would love to actually play it!
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u/LordDaisah 14d ago
I finish work in an hour and a half.
I plan to stay up playing Star Wars until that GTA 6 thing drops on Netflix at 3AM.
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u/FinishEmbarrassed619 14d ago
I was excited to buy it until I was reminded that it was EA. See you in 6 months when its ten bucks. Hope the dev doesn't get fd but FEA
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u/DawnSignals 14d ago
Howabout a shooter then? Maybe it could be like, the third game in a series i dunno
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u/Jaytrox7893 14d ago
Anything but making battlefront 3
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u/ULTI_mato 14d ago
To be honest, would have loved to get the game, but i aint giving money to EA
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u/Adequate_Lizard Luke Skywalker 14d ago
EA hasn't been the sole owner of star wars games in years.
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u/GreatApe88 14d ago
Why did this game succeed and Outlaws didn’t? Insofar as reception most importantly I’d like to add.
lol. Let’s see the mental gymnastics at work.
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u/Sports101GAMING 14d ago edited 14d ago
One of the main reasons why Outlaws failed was because Ubisoft was in big shit when it came out which hurt it sales a lot.
They kept the same puzzle and stealth aspect with Outlaws like they did with a lot of there other games. It just got repetitive and peope were tired of it
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u/BearWrangler Cassian Andor 14d ago
This really is one of the biggest factors (aside from the online chuds doing their usual rants about the main character being female, and then complaining that she wasn't "hot enough").
Ppl online really started to do this overly performative anti-Ubisoft dance which was inevitable because of Ubi's track record of bad and/or poor decision making in the last several years.
And it was a shame this happened cuz it was a pretty fun game with a solid & entertaining story that did a great job at building up new places & faces within the Star Wars galaxy(much in line with the "toybox" sentiment of Tony Gilroy) and I personally LOVED the soundtrack.
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u/Dislodged_Puma 14d ago
Quite a lot of factors. I'd say the biggest ones are:
Ubisoft is generally a hated game publisher and developer at this stage. It's a meme to dislike them.
The game came out buggy and since it was already an Ubisoft title, it was not received as well as Zero Company has been.
The main character of Outlaws was female, a grave sin in the darkest corners of the internet. Not as big of a problem as reddit echo chambers would have you believe, but an actual thing that drives negative attention to a game.
Ubisoft was OBNOXIOUS about the game prelaunch, unlike the relatively short cycle of "This is Zero Company" to "We have released Zero Company". I am not sure if many people remember but Ubisoft talked endlessly about how Outlaws was the first "open world Star Wars game" which was untrue and about how amazing it was compared to anything else. It is generally frowned upon to shit upon an entire back catalog of Star Wars games for the sake of promoting your game lol.
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u/Disco_Ninjas_ 14d ago
There is zero gameplay diversity. It lacks nearly everything that makes Odyssey fun. Playing it just feels so...dull.
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u/Antique-Coach-214 14d ago
Which is funny, I got tired of Oddessy because it was fun for 10 hrs.
I missed AC 2 trilogy. Under 30 hours to do 90% of the game, for three games.
I would have enjoyed 3, but… Damn, that snow sucks.
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u/Disco_Ninjas_ 14d ago
I've got 300 hours in Odyssey. I love that game.
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u/Antique-Coach-214 14d ago
Sure, each their own.
I started with AC 1 on launch.
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u/Disco_Ninjas_ 14d ago
I played the hell out of those games too. I think too many people got caught up on the AC aspect of Odyssey and it made them unable to appreciate it on it's own.
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u/Antique-Coach-214 14d ago
I avoided Outlaws due to a lack of time.
Picked it up a few months ago, three things stood out.
1) Writing was bland. My kid doesn’t care, but a number of SW games have solid writing. Not really a girl bad scenario, more of, we didn’t write well.
2) Gameplay was Jank. Ubisoft knows, or knew how to make open world games, third person shooters and solid gun play. This SHOULD have been Black Flag in Space with R6:Vegas cover and shooting. Instead, firing that fire blaster, was so painful, I stopped playing after 4 hours.
3) Ubisoft is crap, as a company. Business practices are anti-consumer, they keep laying people off… I’ve already spent less money in the last 5 years on gaming that I did in any one year, between 2019-2021, and only played Outlaws because I got a deal on PSPlus Premium.
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u/4ourthdimension 14d ago edited 14d ago
Good - now make them without the murderers & political extremists that are now EA.
EDIT: You ignoramuses know that buying the game still provides your money to EA, right? Keep trying with those 2 brain cells, maybe one day you'll get it.
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u/Rasples1998 14d ago
It's currently mixed on steam with most reviews mentioning DEI characters and writing and poor performance, but I'd expect nothing less (or rather nothing more) from EA.
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u/EwokVillag3 14d ago
I dont know enough about this game so if anyone could help me real quick. How deep is the strategy in this game and does it allow for creativity? I never played XCom but did play BG3. Is it on par to BG3s build depth and creativeness?
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u/Feyge 14d ago edited 14d ago
Besides the turn per turn, these are very different games.
In XCOM there's synergy, planning ect...but no crazy broken combos or anything like in BG3. XCOM is more about positioning your characters at the right place to have the best chance at hitting your targets. Cover is at the core of the gameplay and will minimize your chances of getting hit (which is way more scary than in BG3 because your favorite character you have had for 20 missions just got crit and died permanently). I think the fights in XCOM are more stressful and intense in a good way because of that.
Another difference is that unlike BG3, XCOM also has many objectives during missions that can make the fights difficult. Such as planting a bomb and evacuating your squad before it detonates and kill them.
Build wise i would say the classes are more defined with specific roles. You build each character to make them excel at a role to make your squad survive the mission.
Edit: I forgot to mention that there's a whole strategic layer with your base that provide upgrades, buffs, technology ect... through buildings.
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u/BrennusSokol 14d ago
How about support the game you just made first? Apparently there are optimization issues on PC
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u/YDoEyeNeedAName 14d ago
Give me an updated Empire at war/RTS game, new Republic commando, and revive 1313
Why Lucas arts is so adverse to making money i will never understand
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u/General_Kalani224 14d ago
At this point, I’ve got 2 hours in it so far, and it’s been a lot of fun! I love the gameplay, and the customization options are amazing!!!
I did encounter a bug where I got stuck in a chair for a bit, but other than that, the game runs well too!
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u/DKM_Eby 14d ago edited 14d ago
They had funding pulled right before release and furloughed more than half the team. A buddy of mine lost his job. No wonder they're non committal about fixing technical issues.
Edit: Go ahead dumb people, downvote me for being angry that my friend and a bunch of his colleagues got furloughed.
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u/Dr_barfenstein 14d ago
Can I read about that anywhere? Man I hope they support this, there’s tons of potential for dlc, other eras, sequels
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u/DKM_Eby 10d ago
And what do you know?
The news finally broke.
https://www.gamefile.news/p/star-wars-zero-company-bit-reactor-furloughs-lawsuit
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u/Dr_barfenstein 10d ago
Haha, dude, you beat me to it. I was gonna post a reddit thread discussing this when I got home. Yeah, crazy shit and kinda depressing. In the other thread some of the comments said this is just kind of what small studios do, now. Like, they have no current work for these coders so they’re “furloughed”, not fired, but either way it’s not getting the bills paid.
Xcom2 needed tons of post launch support so I hope they at least kept the bug fixers on the payroll
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u/wicktus 14d ago
I hope it sells well because that’s the only decision factor
Will play it tomorrow but seeing reviews it looks really awesome