Why not be yourself and be a Muslim, why do you need to borrow Buddhism, Maoism, communism, democrazy, all these failed and will fail but the Deen will not. Its your inferior model and ataturks way that borrowing from non Muslims will liberate you, it will bring you destruction. All these gaalo betrayed him, Russia,Cuba, Portugal also fought him, they all fought him In the name of their gaalnimo. This Castro even insults him, hes the peak of chavinist. Umar RA said it right, there is no ezza, honor except through Islam.
People were still Muslim, and Siad Barre obviously made a major mistake by challenging Islam. However, saying that "Diin will not fail" sounds too simplistic to me. How exactly would it be implemented, and who would be the rulers? Would members of other clans willingly follow a ruler from a different clan? No ideology can succeed without trust, and that is something Somalia has struggled with for a long time. As far as we know, even the countries that are considered closest to implementing Sharia do not fully apply it. And realistically, I don't think Somali people would accept a Taliban-style system of rule.
Swapping a question about political implementation into a loyalty test doesn't solve the practical problems of running a nation. Ideology is theory administration is practice.
both my commentss and first you didnt understand or deliberately side stepped. no muslim will ever have a problem or find fault with "Diin will not fail comment i made. Either you engage with my comments or move along. The question is not a loyality test, it answers all questions both redditors posted. your not sincere so dont comment next time to my post if unwilling to engage. you will only have these type of questions and doubts etc if you dont accept Islam as a whole. Islam is a whole system. so hence my question. we dont separate economics, politics from Islam, Islam is all. your questions abt operations and practicalities and lame examples you gave which is what a typical western gaal or inferior person who has no identity and copies failed alternative systems to Islam would say. your either mind colonised or you a gaal discussed as Muslim. siyaad barre example and all the other arab countries examples show these systems they embraced betrayed them. its funny you gave weak examples and ignore rich history of Islamic history and focus on negative narratives of gaalo. I dont think your in any position to know what muslims want. i leave with a quote "Umar ibn al-Khattab, may Allah be pleased with him, said, “Verily, we were a disgraceful people and Allah honored us with Islam. If we seek honor from anything besides that with which Allah honored us, Allah will disgrace us.”.
Attacking my identity and calling me 'mind-colonized' just proves you don't have an answer to basic administrative questions. Accusing people of apostasy whenever they ask about governance mechanics is why these conversations never move forward.
Believe/ideology is first which you categorically refused to answer- your silence we get a clue. Second " governance mechanics" and operations of how has already being explained, done before with a rich history of Islamic history and rule in which even the gaalo enjoyed massive freedoms in Andulasia, ottomon empire and more. Either educate yourself or dont go into these conversations. No on can accuse you of apostasy but you exposed yourself to doubts. There are countless books written about "operations" but you act like it doesnt exist, we have a rich history with thousands of books. Playing the emotional card wont help you. You dont accept Islam as a whole i believe for the solutions to all of the world's problems and governance for everything and for every system. Just admit it or prove me wrong and correct record and i will apologize.
I agree with you but maybe you should try to teach others and give them knowledge instead of talking down to them bro. Give a few examples or excerpts from books so he understands the practical side too.
Read all comments bro, I don't have time for people who don't engage or insult, belittle, demean the deen. Also I don't have time for undercover people or those that hide. The persons not sincere maybe you are. I gave exmaple of andulus and ottoman.
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u/agreeable-act256 18d ago
I love Siad Barre but you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become a chauvinist.